Cagrilintide Explained The Next BIG Peptide for Fat Loss
Cagrilintide is a newer peptide that works on appetite through a completely different pathway than GLP-1s. I've been experimenting with it personally, and I think it's going to be huge over the next couple of years. Here's everything you need to know about how it works, how I'm dosing it, and why I think stacking it with retatrutide is the move.
What Cagrilintide Actually Is
Cagrilintide (I'll just call it Cagri because the full name is a tongue twister) is a long-acting amylin analog developed by Novo Nordisk for obesity and metabolic disorders.
It's structurally related to pramlintide, which is a synthetic version of human amylin. Amylin is a hormone co-secreted with insulin from the pancreatic beta cells. It plays a role in appetite regulation, gastric emptying, and glucose metabolism.
Cagri mimics amylin but has an extended half-life, so once-weekly dosing works. It's currently in trials both as a standalone and stacked with semaglutide. You've probably heard of CagriSema. I think there's a better stack though, and I'll get to that.
How It Works in the Body
When you inject Cagri, it binds to amylin receptors in the brain, specifically in the area postrema and nucleus tractus solitarius of the brainstem. This reduces appetite and increases satiety.
It also slows gastric emptying, which prolongs digestion and contributes to fullness. People hear "slows gastric emptying" and assume that's bad. It's not always. If your lifestyle is dialed in, slower digestion just means you eat less without feeling miserable.
Cagri also acts on the hypothalamus to reduce hunger signals directly. And it indirectly improves fat oxidation and metabolic rate by reducing food intake over time.
It doesn't lower blood glucose directly, but it modulates insulin secretion and reduces post-meal glucose spikes. So less of your meal gets stored as fat.
How It Differs From GLP-1s
This is the part most people get wrong. They ask why you'd need Cagri if you're already on a GLP-1. The answer is they hit different pathways.
GLP-1 agonists like semaglutide and retatrutide bind to GLP-1 receptors in the brain, pancreas, and gut. They suppress appetite, increase insulin secretion, and slow gastric emptying.
Cagri binds to amylin receptors and primarily inhibits appetite without stimulating insulin.
Here's the big difference. With GLP-1s, the "fullness" you feel is honestly more like nausea. You don't want to eat because you feel a little sick. With Cagri, the fullness is real. It works on the brain regions that regulate hunger at a fundamental level. It's a mental appetite suppression rather than a physical one.
That makes Cagri potentially safer for non-diabetics or really lean people who don't need insulin manipulation but want to kill the food noise. I get this question all the time from biohackers who want the appetite suppression of retatrutide but are scared of dropping their blood sugar too low.
Side Effects
In my experience at a lower dose, side effects were almost non-existent compared to GLP-1s.
The possibilities listed include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, mild dizziness, and fatigue. I did notice slight fatigue in the first few days that I couldn't explain by training or sleep. It went away.
Hypoglycemia isn't caused by Cagri itself but can happen if you stack it with insulin or other diabetes meds.
Most side effects normalize within the first couple of weeks, like with all peptides.
Dosing
Start low, go slow. Always.
I started at 0.25 mg once weekly. By day three or four it wore off, so I went to 0.25 mg twice per week for a total of 0.5 mg. That's where I'm sitting.
Trials suggest 2.4 to 4.5 mg per week for optimal weight loss. Honestly, I don't know how anyone tolerates that high a dose without basically going on a 21-day fast. The appetite suppression at that level would be massive.
If you're already on a higher dose of a GLP-1, do not start Cagri at a high dose. That's a recipe for misery. Stay on the lowest dose that gets you the result for as long as you can.
Why I Stack Cagri With Retatrutide
Retatrutide is a triple agonist hitting GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon. Right now it's the most powerful peptide available on the research market.
When you combine Reta with Cagri, you get a one-plus-one-equals-three effect. Reta drives lipolysis through glucagon receptor activation. Cagri reduces food intake and improves energy balance. Together you maximize fat oxidation and caloric restriction at the same time.
You also get better insulin sensitivity. Reta improves glucose metabolism through GLP-1 and GIP. Cagri slows digestion for smoother post-meal glucose. Combined, that's better glycemic control and more metabolic flexibility.
It's also more sustainable. A lot of people plateau on GLP-1s because of thyroid changes, no lifestyle change, or receptor adaptation. Amylin receptor activation helps prevent that metabolic adaptation, so long-term fat loss holds better.
My Stack and Ratios
Here's how I'm running it.
Retatrutide at 0.5 mg per week, gradually increasing to 2 to 3 mg based on tolerance. Trials have used up to 12 mg. Do not start there. Your body will go haywire.
Cagri at 0.25 mg per week, titrating up to 2.5 to 4.5 mg if needed.
I'm running roughly a 2-to-1 to 4-to-1 ratio of Reta to Cagri. Some people are blending 1-to-1. For me, that would be too much appetite suppression. I'm in a lean phase but want to keep my muscle, so I need to eat on training days.
You can also use Cagri to bridge off Reta. When you cycle off, throw in Cagri to maintain appetite suppression and reduce food noise. I might run one month Reta, one month Cagri, alternating, so the body never builds tolerance to either.
My Personal Experience
What I really liked about Cagri is it didn't mess with digestion at all. No gastric distress, especially at the low dose.
The times I tend to overeat are after training, around holidays, or at family events. Cagri doesn't make me feel sick during those times. I just get to a point where my brain says "I'm done" and I stop. It's much more of a mental appetite suppression than a physical one.
It dissociates the compulsion around food without making eating miserable. I still enjoy meals. I just stop sooner because I'm actually full.
My Take
Cagri plus Reta is the most potent non-stimulant fat loss peptide stack available right now. Add a mitochondrial enhancer like SLU-PP-332 and a growth hormone peptide and you have the holy grail of fat loss.
If you're plateauing on a GLP-1, do not just keep increasing the dose. Try adding low-dose Cagri first. You'll likely break through without the side effects of pushing a GLP-1 higher.
I think Cagri is going to be massive over the next two years, and it deserves a spot in the conversation alongside the heavy hitters.
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Hey everybody. This is Hunter Williams. I hope you were doing amazing wherever you are at in the world. Today's video is going to be my comprehensive overview of coagulantide. So this is a newer peptide, it is actually an amylin analog. It works similar, but different than GLP1Zoo in a sense that it reduces appetite, doing so through a whole different cascade. What I'm going do today is just walk you through everything you need to know about the background of it and everything. But then also to my personal experience and how I recommend using it.
and whether or not you should use it alongside of a GOP one, or you would use in a cycle off of the GOG one. Spoiler, I think you can do both, but I'm going to go into diving deep into that and how you could do it. So that's what we're going talk about today. Pretty cut and dry, and also very informative. I recently started experimenting with coagulantide. And I've been thinking about making this video for a while, But I wanted to give my own personal experience and input before I did everything together. So I think that the videos are always a little bit better when I'm able to do so.
That's what we're going to talk about today. Before I jump into everything, remember to check out the peptide cheat sheet down in the description of every video. And as always, check our fully optimized health. It's the best community on the planet for all this biohacking stuff. Without further ado, I am going share my screen and today we are going learn about coagulantide. All right. I am Hunter Williams. Uh, today is going to be my comprehensive overview of cariline tide. And henceforth, I will most likely call it category because that's easier to say. Um, whoever came up with the name, um, much like I've done before.
And some of my own stuff, probably didn't think about saying Kergrillin Tide. Uh, it's kind of a little bit tongue twister. Um, so I'm just going to call it category cause that's a lot easier to say, I think. So, uh, don't hate me for that, but, um, It is, like, a novel long acting amylin analog developed by Nova Nordis for the treatment of obesity and metabolic disorders. As are most of the medications being developed right now, because those are the two drivers of so much of, the disease that we see in the world today. is structurally related to something else called pramlentide, which is a synthetic analog of human amylin, but has been optimized for enhanced stability
and efficacy. So amylin, just to kind of summarize what that is, is hormone cosecreted with insulin. from the pancreatic beta cells and plays a critical role in appetite regulation, gastric emptying and glucose metabolism. So carotid is designed to mimic Amylin's effects while having an extended half-life, making it suitable for once weekly subcutaneous administration. I'm actually going to talk about how to kind of maybe tweak that a little bit based on some of the microdosing principles that we talk about.
But it's currently undergoing clinical trials as both a monotherapy and in combination with GOP-1 receptor and agonists such as semaglutide for weight loss. You have probably heard of CAGR-SEMA. That is most commonly what is being combined with Kugrelentine right now, semoglutaride. But I'm going to talk about something that might be a little bit better than that. And you probably could guess what that is. So let's look at the mechanisms of what it's actually doing in the body. The first thing is this amylin receptor activation. What it does when we inject this peptide goes into the buddy and it binds to amylin receptors in brain.
Particularly in area post-rima and nucleus tractus solitarius of the brain stem. This leads to the reduced appetite and enhanced satiety. that we're getting. So unlike GLP-1, it's working on a completely different pathway. And I'll compare those on another slide in a second, but let's get going. It slows gastric emptying. Like natural amylin, Cagri slows gaseous empting, leading to prolonged digestion and absorption of food, which contributes to increased fullness and reduced caloric intake. Now, on paper, when people hear about these peptides slowing gastric emptying, they immediately think that's a bad thing.
Now, in some cases it can be, but not always. It's kind of just slowing the progression of our digestion. And in doing so it makes us less hungry and we eat less. So if everything else is being taken care of right, it's not necessarily a Um, I actually wrote an email about that a couple of days ago about why gastric ending being slowed is not necessarily a bad thing. It's kind of everything else around that that people are doing wrong from a lifestyle standpoint that ends up being bad for them. But, um, it also suppresses appetite via the hypothalamus.
So Cagri affects the hyperthalamic appetite centers, reducing hunger signals and promoting meal satisfaction with smaller food portions. Um I'll talk about my own experience a little bit later, but I can definitely attest to that. It improves energy balance, so it indirectly increases fat oxidation and metabolic rate by reducing food intake over time, leading to sustained weight loss. So this is where, you know, it's going to be different a lot than a GLP-1, or a terzepatide, because it is not necessarily burning fat off of your body
in the way that those peptides do. it's really more doing it through this feeling of fullness that leads to lower caloric intake. And then finally, it enhances insulin sensitivity. So it doesn't directly lower blood glucose, but it supports better metabolic regulation by modulating insulin secretion and reducing postprandial glucose spikes, which just means that after you eat a meal, rather than your blood sugar spiking way up, it's helping modulate that so that you end up not storing as much of the meal as fat as you would normally.
So what are the benefits of these mechanisms that are then going on in the body? Obviously significant weight loss. Clinical trials show substantial reductions in body weight, particularly when combined with semaglutide, reduced appetite and food intake. It leads to lower daily caloric consumption. I think that's really where you'll see the most shine from category, um, improved society. So it obviously helps us feel fuller for longer. Um, it also too, by indirectly improving insulin sensitivity, It's going to reduce inflammation and positively impact our cardiovascular health markers.
It does have a long half-life. Once weekly dosing. I'm going talk about the dosage a little bit and kind of a strategy around that, but you know, like unlike the old GLP-1s, it does have a long half-life. And then it's synergistic with GLPs so we can actually use them together to enhance the weight loss that we would get from either of them in isolation. So let's look at some side effects. Now, in my experience, Side effects of Cagri, at least the lower dose that I'm on, tend to be much, much more muted or really non-existent compared to
some of the GLP1 class peptides. But just as a disclaimer, what do we have? We have GI issues, so nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, delayed gastric imping, like I talked about. Hypoglycemia. So it does not cause hypoglycemia itself, but may enhance insulin action. when used in combination with other diabetic medications like insulin. We have dizziness and fatigue. So a small percentage of users report mild diziness or tiredness as the body adapts. I think I could probably say that this did happen a little bit where I noticed maybe a like I wouldn't say I was like exhausted,
but just a little bit more fatigue within the first few days of taking it, uh, outsized of anything else that I doing from like a training or hormone or a sleep perspective. Um, and obviously with any peptide, you might get like, um, injection site reaction. So most of these side effects, as with all peptides tend to normalize over a, a first couple of week period. But what are the dosages? So, Dosing when I read about it was kind of all over the place. So obviously I am of the opinion, start low and go slow. My starting dose that I did was 0.25 milligrams in my first week.
I just did that one time. Um, that ended up being enough, but I noticed by the third or fourth day that it kind of wore off. Um. So I just went up to 0.25 milligrams twice per week for a total dose of 0 5 milligrams. Now as with most of the GOP ones, like the recommendation of least officially is to increase gradually to the target doses, which ended being 4.5 milligrams, I think in trials. I don't know after my experience, how anyone could go to that high of a dose and, uh, not just.
go like on a 21 day fast because that's how big the appetite suppression is. Um, but Nova Nordis trial suggests that 2.4 to 4.5 milligrams per week provides optimal weight loss effects while balancing the side effects. So, um, I would never, never start off with that. If you're starting off, would it just do 0.25 milligrams once a week, see how you feel. And then obviously you can titrate up as needed, relative to how hungry you are. This is really much more of a lever that we can pull on our hunger and feeling of satiety. Keep that in mind and you know, I think for people that are on higher doses of GLP ones, you want to make sure that you are not,
uh, just dosing this really high right away, because I thinking on a higher dose of GOP one plus a hard dose to this, that could probably go bad. So start on low dose. And ultimately I just say, stay in a low-dose sustain a load dose as much as you can. If you have to tight trade up, You'd have two types right up. But again, this would be done in conjunction with healthy lifestyle, hormone optimization, a healthy diet training, exercise, all those good things. What I did in this slide is going to be a little bit longer, but I want to explain how it's different from the GLP-1. So we're all pretty familiar with these if you're in the ecosystem at this point, so we kind of know the framework of them.
But a lot of people say this like, well, why would you need Kagri? So why you would need a Kagari with SEMA, or why do you So let's look at it because I think there's an argument that could be made that if we maximize the amount of pathways that we're hitting and minimize the dose, there is actually a better overall result, which is fat loss, what we are trying to get. So, let us look different receptors and their effects. GOP1 agonists like semiturs and RETA bind to GOp1 receptors in the brain, pancreas and gut. They reduce appetite suppression and insulin secretion, and they slow gastric emptying.
Well, sounds similar. So, Cagri binds to amylin receptors primarily in the post-traumat and nucleus tractus solitarius, And they primarily inhibit appetite and slow gas trick empting without stimulating insulin. Now let's look at the suppression of appetite in regards to these versus each other. So GLP-1 receptor agonists reduce appetite, but their primary function is glucose control and insulin secretion. So you'll kind of notice if you've taken a GLp-I that it does definitely suppress your appetite.
But you will also have times where you maybe feel like your apatite is slightly increased. And one that comes from increasing your metabolism because they're doing that. Um, But it's also like going in and doing a lot to the insulin signaling within the body. Cagri has a more direct effect on feeling full. And also with the GOP1s, we have this full feeling that really more comes from nausea. It's not so much of an actual feeling, full, it's kind of a synthetic full because you're just nauseous. So you don't want to eat anymore.
That's really where people eat less is usually because they're a little bit nauseas. Not so this debilitating, but they just don' want eat because it kind feel nauseus. However, Caggeri works much more directly on your feeling of fullness or satiety. which works in areas of the brain that regulate hunger at a fundamental level. So when we combine GOP1s with Cagri, it's significantly greater because it suppressing hunger through multiple pathways and it is not so overwhelming that we kind of feel sick. GOp1 agonists also increase insulin secretion from the pancreatic beta cells in response to food and Caguari does not directly affect insulin levels,
but by reducing food intake and slowing gastric emptying it helps with glucose stabilization And this makes it potentially safer for non-diabetics who do not need the insulin manipulation. So this is a question I get from biohackers and really, really fit people all the time. It's like, I would love to get the benefits of Truzapotide or Retatrutide, but I'm scared that I'll lower my blood sugar too much. Now. I don't really see that as being an issue in all the people that I've coached and witnessed and everything in our groups and stuff. However, I think if the goal is to blunt the food noise and to blunt kind of the dopaminergic drive to eat compulsively or gamble or be addicted.
I think category could be a better substitute for someone that does not necessarily need to lose weight. Now I say that, but I there's more of like a. Better inflammatory suppression from the GOP ones because again of what it's doing to regulate insulin in the body. But that being said, I this idea of food noise category is potentially stronger and even better at what Um, you know, category has a, uh, much longer half-life compared to just amylin alone or prim lentide. Um and GOP one receptor agonists also have long half lives.
So in terms of the dosing and administration, it's really easy to like mix and match these together, because they have similar, similar pharmacokinetics in term of their half life. So, and then finally, it just has reduced risk of nausea. So I can personally attest to this, the higher you go with a GOP-1, typically you're going to be up against the wall of Naja. The reason people have to stop at higher doses is usually because of the nauseam, usually, because it's increased slowing of gastric emptying. And with Cagri, could still cause nausea.
I think at higher doses, but at lower doses there really was no nause or anything with me. And like I said, my feeling of feeling full with Cagri was like, Whoa, this is amazing because I'm literally not that hungry. Then when I go to eat, I stop eating way sooner, But it's not because i'm uncomfortable. It's just cause I am full and it kind of like if you eat a meal and then you go eat another meal an hour later, you're not going to stuff your face cause you are like oh I was already full to begin with. That's kind To me, Cagri has really, I've always always liked this before, but it's really made me just eat for fuel to where I enjoy eating.
It's going to be Super Bowl Sunday at the time of me filming this soon in a couple of days. And I'm excited to like enjoy some Superbowl food because that's like a pastime of my family, you know, growing up. But, um, With Cagri, it really does dissociate this compulsion and addiction, even if it's very, very slight that you may have to food. So that was really cool is just that it did so without making you feel sick, I guess would be the best way to say it.
So why would we stack Kagri with Reddit True Tide? So I think you'd use Kagari to good effect, just to reduce calories, if that's what you're going to do. You're not going accelerate or amplify fat loss per se, the way you would with red true tide. But I can combine them together to one, get amazing benefits, but then to also stay on a lower dose of either for the long term, because it's going to have a one plus one equals three benefit. So let's jump into this. Obviously, you know, red trutide is a triple agonist, GOP1, GIP, and glucagon.
Right now, I think it is the most powerful peptide that is available in existence, at least on the research market. And because they work on different mechanisms, we're kind of getting this one plus one equals three effect. So I think the appetite suppression, you know, it's interesting with right at true tide, a lot of people get appetite suppressions. Some people don't get that much appetite, suppression because It's, um, driving up their metabolism so much that they kind of like want to eat the same amount or they want eat more, which can be bad if you're really trying to lose weight.
I think for like a, you know, fit person that's already healthy, it's actually good because you are able to keep the calories that you need, but it is not the But anyway, the appetite suppression ends up being more profound when you have them together. So Reddit TrueTide is going to increase lipolysis through glucagon receptor activation, and then CAGR reduces the food intake and enhances energy balance over time. And when we combine the two, it maximizes fat oxidation and caloric restriction together, but it's also going lead to even better insulin sensitivity and
metabolic health. Reddit improves glucose metabolism through the GLP and GIP receptors. And then category slows digestion, leading to smoother glucose regulation post meal. So the combo results in better glycemic control, less insulin resistance, and improved metabolic flexibility. And I think ultimately, it's more sustainable weight loss. The GLP, GIP agonist can eventually lead to plateaus and weight-loss, as a lot of people have seen, because of everything going on with their thyroid, hormones, then also to just the overall lack of change in lifestyle.
A lot people inject those drugs and they just think that it is going to stop them you know, from eating and that they're going to lose weight magically. And some people that happened, a lot of people, um, they stopped using them and it just comes right back. But amyloin receptor activation helps prevent metabolic adaptation, making long-term fat loss more sustainable. Um, so what I would do personally is start with 0.5 milligrams red up per week and gradually increase to two to three milligrams per a week based on tolerance. I know that the dosages used in trials has been as high as 12 milligrams. Um, you should never start off there.
Your body's going to go haywire if you start out there, um, so start low and always go slow. And I would say stay on the lowest dose, uh, for as long as possible. I think category, I'm going say start at 0.25 milligrams per week, and then you can tighten it up to 2.5 to 4.50 milligrams. So for me so far, I've noticed like a two to one ratio of Cagri, or excuse me, two-to-one ratio, of red out of category or a four to ratio red at a category. Somewhere in that range is really beneficial. Now I know a lot of people are making blends of one- to- one. So they're making one to red of a Caggeri.
I think that would be fine. For me. That would probably be a little bit too much appetite suppression. And I'm in a lean out phase right now. But I still want to retain a lot of the muscle that I put on. So I'm kind of doing it in a slower manner. Um, so I do want maintain my appetite on my eating and training days. Uh, but I think a two to one or somewhere in two, two one to four, one ratio of Reddit True Tide to Cagri, um, is a really good spot because we obviously want the fat loss, fat lost that Red True-Tide is going to provide, But then also the appetite suppression of The Caggeri. That's kind my strategy around, doing, it.
so just to sum up, I, think the most potent, powerful stack would be Cageri with Retta. To have a non-stimulant fat loss peptide stack that's currently available, I don't think there's anything else out there. Of course you can add it in growth hormone peptides, of course, you're going to add in mitochondrial enhancing peptids or SLUPP332, and you should. But I think in terms of peptidies directly, these are the best. I even think too, because I know people will ask this, for people that do well on Reddit or Terz, you could use Kagri to suppress your appetite when you're
coming off of those. So assuming that you are doing everything right from your lifestyle standpoint, um, when come off Auretta or a Terz, you can throw in Kagari to maintain the appetite suppression, to the reduction in food noise and not have to worry about not having that. And because you know, cycling off is going to, allow you to stay on the lowest doses, to allow, you're going to get the most benefits long-term that we all want. It's pretty cool. So I would say you can use CAGR and RETTA together. Of course you use Cagri and SEMA or CAGRI and TURGE together, I wouldn't do that because we have Reta, but I will use cagrin ready together and then also to,
if you didn't want to do, that you could use category in your off cycles of Rettas. Maybe one month, Retta one-month, Caggeri. I probably will experiment with that just to see how it does. Um, you know, because I'm also living insulin controlled, I've not necessarily dependent on the Reda for fat loss or keeping me lean by any means. Um. But I think it'd be cool to like alternate back and forth between those. And so your body never really builds up a tolerance to either, which would be really cool. So, um, and just to sum up Amylin and GLP one. and GIP work through different mechanisms come complimenting each other for greater appetite, suppression, fat, oxidation,
metabolic control. And, um, if you are someone that is at a plateau, and I know this is lots of people out there. If you're in a plato with your GOP one, I think absolutely before upping the dose, go to something like Cagri and see if can keep progressing. I and a lot of the people they plateau because they don't get the same appetite suppression. They don' get same fat loss. So they have to keep uping the GOPs one. and introducing something like a Cagri, even at a really low dose, it's going to be beneficial for that. So that is it for the slides.
And that's my comprehensive overview of Cragrylentide or Caggeri, as I will refer to it from here on out. Yeah, I think for just to sum up with my own personal experience, what I really liked about category is it didn't really mess with digestion at all. So, you know, when you're on a GOP one, usually for most people in those for a few weeks, are going to have some sort of gastric distress. Didn't have any of that whatsoever, especially at a low dose. For me, like I would say, The times that I tend to overeat are either after exercise or like around a holiday or family event.
And again, I don't have a problem with that by any means, but just for me personally, to like have empathy for people that are struggling with fat loss. Um, those are the times. So like, usually it's like a family event or something like emotional or like sporting event, or it. Um. You know, after a training session where I'm really hungry and I can just very easy for me to like go off the rails or whatever. And, uh, what this does is even those times when you're hungry, you kind of get to the point where you just like I. but it's not the same I'm good feeling as reddit or turz is to where you kind of feel sick and you kinda feel like a ball sitting in the top of your stomach
is there. It's really just more like I don't want to eat anymore and my brain is kinda full. So I would say Cagri has much more of a mental appetite suppression than a GLP-1 does. Whereas a GOP one is more of a physical appetite suppression, if that makes sense. So, um, hopefully this was helpful to you guys. Um, I think category is going to be huge probably over the next two years. And, uh, what we can do by using even something as simple as like a GLP, like Reta, category, a mitochondrial enhancer like Matzi or SLU.
And then a growth hormone peptide, that right there is a holy grail of fat loss. So might be needing, might time to update the fat-loss stack. Thank you guys so much. As always, just closing out everybody. I'm really humbled and honored. Like I get up every morning so excited to get to do what I do. And that doesn't mean at times it can be stressful, but it's just so amazing. and I am so grateful every day for everything I've been blessed with and to be able to bring messages like this to you, guys. Thank you guys in any way that you can that, you provide support, whether that's just commenting, liking, subscribing, being on the email list and then
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