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Saturday Morning Coffee Talk 5/2/26

2026-05-25 · 2:14:30 · 7 min read

Two weeks since the last livestream. Taylor and I sat down with coffee, worked through a backlog of questions, and went off the rails. Standard fare.

Here's a recap of what we actually got into.

Maz-dutide: Taylor's First Three Weeks

I've been off GLPs for a month and feel great. No rebound hunger. I titrated down before stopping, which I think made the landing smooth. Taylor, meanwhile, has been running maz-dutide for about three weeks and it's been the standout of the morning.

Maz-dutide is GLP-1 plus glucagon. No GIP. Think of it as reta-trutide minus the GIP, or semaglutide plus a glucagon hit. The ratio is roughly equal GLP to glucagon. Servo-dutide has the same two agonisms but skews about eight to one toward GLP.

Taylor said it feels like she's four weeks into reta-trutide already. Appetite suppression kicked in after a single dose. No nausea. No food aversion. No elevated heart rate. On retatrutide she sometimes gets a flat emotional state. On maz-dutide, none of that.

My hunch is the missing GIP matters. GIP seems to drive a lot of the nausea and the dopamine-related effects of tirzepatide. Strip it out, keep the glucagon, and you get reta-level metabolic punch at lower total milligrams.

The clinical data backs this up too. Maz-dutide has the lowest dropout rate of any GLP in trials. Fat loss isn't as strong as reta-trutide, but it tracks roughly with tirzepatide and with fewer side effects. It's approved in China. I'd guess we see US approval around 2028.

Is this the healthy person's better alternative? I think it might be. Reta is still king when you need aggressive fat loss. But once you're at goal weight and you want a maintenance tool, maz-dutide is looking like the smarter pick.

Yohimbine Cream and Topical Peptides

Taylor's been using yohimbine cream on her stomach before morning cardio. It pulls water off without the cold-fever, hypoxic feeling you get from oral or injected yohimbine. Injected yohimbine is brutal. You have to start moving within five minutes or your heart rate goes through the roof.

The cream gives you the practical effect without the metabolization spike. It's an old bodybuilding trick from the nineties that nobody talks about anymore.

We've also been testing topical peptide creams the last few weeks. Cartilax cream on a tweaked knee took the pain away after one application. I don't think topical replaces injection for a real tear. But for the mass market, BPC, cartilax, and TB 500 creams are going to be useful. Most people will never inject.

Testosterone Dosing for Dogs

Easy formula. For a male dog, 10 mg per 10 pounds of body weight every 10 days. For a female dog, 1 mg per 10 pounds every day.

Our German shepherds are around 80 pounds, so they get 80 mg every ten days. No side effects. They still don't listen to us, but they didn't before either.

Growth Hormone Peptides vs Real Growth Hormone

Someone asked about timing growth hormone peptides with reta and slow gastric emptying. The honest answer is it probably doesn't matter much. Reta makes you more insulin sensitive, so your insulin comes back to baseline faster. That's the actual variable that affects GH peptide efficacy, not gastric emptying.

But the bigger question I had was why are we doing GH peptides at all when real growth hormone exists.

I was reading The Psychology of Money this week. Morgan Housel points out that 50% of mutual fund managers don't invest in their own funds. They make their money selling you the fund. Their incentive is decoupled from your result.

That's exactly what's happening with growth hormone peptides in the influencer space. A lot of the people pushing peptides hard are using actual growth hormone themselves. They sell you the peptide, they take the GH. With real growth hormone you can titrate by half-IU and dial in your response. With peptides the IGF cascade is variable and sometimes too much.

I use growth hormone peptides in specific cases. They're not bad. But real growth hormone is superior and most people pushing the alternative are not on the alternative.

Telmisartan for Blood Pressure on TRT

If your blood pressure is creeping up on testosterone, 20 mg of telmisartan a day works well. Standard hypertensive dose is 80 mg. You don't need that. Twenty is a microdose that gives you the endothelial benefit without crashing your pressure.

One caveat. If you're already on an SGLT2 like jardiance, watch out. SGLT2s drop blood pressure too. Stacking telmisartan on top can put you on the floor. I used to take 20 mg daily until I added jardiance and got too low. Now I just use the SGLT2. If I ever ran higher doses of gear, telmisartan goes back in.

Coming Off GLPs Without Gaining the Weight Back

A listener hit goal weight on tirzepatide, tapered off, gained 10 pounds back. This is the live-by-the-sword, die-by-the-sword problem with GLPs. If the GLP is the only thing addressing your metabolism, of course you regain when you stop.

The fix is the rest of the stack. HRT. Thyroid optimization. Growth hormone or GH peptides. In trials, postmenopausal women on HRT lost 35% more weight on tirzepatide than women not on HRT. Without those foundations, the metabolic momentum dies when the GLP stops.

Also worth asking what the 10 pounds actually is. Water? Fat? Muscle? Taylor pointed out that when she cycles off GLPs she gains weight too. Most of it is muscle because her training shifts. Stop weighing yourself. Look in the mirror. Check how your clothes fit. Get a DEXA or BodPod if you want real data.

Rapamycin: Useful, But There's Better

Rapamycin suppresses mTOR. That's good for longevity until it isn't. Suppress mTOR too much and you lose muscle, which kills longevity from the other direction.

Six milligrams once a week is fine if you're in your fifties or sixties. But we have ATX 304, metformin, and SGLT2s that hit AMPK and give similar autophagy benefits without the catabolic downside. If I had to pick between rapamycin and metformin plus ATX, I'd take the metformin-ATX stack every time.

I won't rule rapamycin out. It has good clinical data. I just think the toolkit has gotten better and rapamycin's drawbacks aren't worth it for most people.

ATX 304 vs SLU-PP-332

These get confused all the time and they do opposite things.

SLU-PP-332 is an estrogen-related receptor agonist. It pushes mitochondrial biogenesis. You're revving the engine. Burn fat, more energy, more output.

ATX 304 is an AMPK activator. It mimics the fasted state. Improves insulin sensitivity, drops cholesterol, gives you autophagy benefits. Think of it as a better metformin without the muscle-loss concerns.

The risk with SLU is that if your mitochondria are already trashed, revving the engine harder makes things worse. Old 1987 F-150 in the garage with the door closed. ATX is harder to overshoot. Both have a place, just don't confuse the mechanisms.

Mirabegron for Fat Loss

I'm releasing a non-GLP fat loss agents video soon and mirabegron is in it. It's a beta-3 agonist prescribed for overactive bladder. Above and beyond what albuterol does on the beta-2 side, mirabegron creates real fat loss.

Safe range is 50 to 100 mg. People push to 200 mg and start getting tachycardia. Like albuterol, you get a few weeks of clean benefit before the stimulation catches up with you. Used carefully, it works really well.

Aromatase Inhibitors: Just Don't

A guy on TRT with E2 at 80 and SHBG high asked if he should add an AI. No.

If you feel good, you don't need it. Higher testosterone wants higher estrogen, proportionally. Suppressing estrogen when your testosterone is high makes you feel worse, not better.

If the SHBG is high, the real problem is probably visceral body fat. Drop the fat, the aromatization drops too. Metformin has aromatase-inhibiting properties because it reduces visceral fat and downregulates aromatase expression in fat tissue. Take a gram of metformin a day before you ever reach for an AI.

I've had my own estrogen at 130 with zero symptoms. I run best around 60 to 70. The number on the page isn't the problem if you feel good.

Trust, Stakeholders, and the Peptide Influencer Game

Someone in chat referenced a video claiming that even 99% pure research peptides have 1% LPS contamination. Technically true. Contextually deceptive. A 95% pure peptide can be endotoxin-free. A 99% pure peptide can be loaded with endotoxins. Purity and endotoxin load are separate measurements.

The person making that claim sells peptides. Their income depends on you being scared of the alternative.

Upton Sinclair said it best. Don't try to teach a man something his income depends on him not understanding. Whenever someone tells you something, ask who benefits from you believing it.

I don't care where you get your peptides. I'm not advertising sources on this show. The biggest thing I sell is trust. The fastest way to lose that is to start lying about what I use and where I get it.

That's also why I'd rather have a thousand true fans who actually engage than ten million followers who don't. Kevin Kelly wrote that essay years ago and it still tracks. The goal was never to be the biggest. It was to make the world healthier and more prosperous for the people who actually show up.

A Few Quick Hits From the Mailbag

SS 31 for kidney health. Yes. 10 to 20 mg per day. SGLT2s also help significantly.

BPC for rotator cuff. Pin in the area. 500 mcg twice a day until it heals. Stack with TB 500 and cartilax.

MK 777 dosing. 10 mg at night works well. Up to 20 mg a week is fine. I wouldn't push past that.

Epitalon dosing. I use 1 mg a day for 10 to 20 days, then off. There's a translation issue in the Russian literature around mg vs mcg. Err on the lower side.

ARA 290. Underrated for pain and neuropathy. 2 to 4 mg per day.

LDN at night causing insomnia. About 25% of people can't tolerate nighttime LDN. Morning works fine. Same anti-inflammatory and immune benefits.

Cheap blood testing. Vanguardperform.com, code HunterW for 10% off. Full male panel under $400.

That's the recap. Reader mailbag drops this week. Next livestream in two weeks, which lands on our one-year anniversary and Mother's Day. See you then.

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And we made it. Good Saturday morning, everyone. And at, this may have many people, I know we do a mic check when we start. So if our lovely friends in the chat could just let us know if they hear us okay, and they see us. Okay. In the video and the audio is good. And also too, we were experiencing some technical difficulties, which is why we're about six minutes behind. We sat down at 10 58 or nine 58. And I had every, I actually came up like 45 minutes early this morning, set everything up and I just had it ready to go.

The computers froze. Yeah. And so I had to reboot all the computers and the cameras and everything. So we, we made it. All right. Everyone says we are good. I hope everyone is doing well. It has been two weeks since our last live stream. Hopefully this is a good cadence. What we intend to do is do like a reader mailbag episode where we do the prerecorded ones. That seems to have gotten really good feedback so far. We will continue to that.

week that we don't do a reader mailbag, we will do live stream with you guys and hang out and go through some questions and then talk about any relevant topics in the world today. We were discussing a few minutes ago, Taylor didn't have anything that was pressing, but more so What I've been taking that I'm well, maybe let's talk about that because there's two things I'd been Taking that are new that. I really like right. So let us maybe talk About Maz do tide first, which is the glp glucagon agonist minus it would be red at true tide minus the gip Or semen glue tide plus

the glue could gun. However, you want to split it, but I actually haven't taken this yet. i've just been taken i'm taking like a month off of glps and I feel really good. Like, I, feel fine taking, it's just this last time I've used GLPs was probably like the longest consecutively, as I want to say somewhere around six months. I felt great doing that. And I'd been off a month and I still feel a really. Good. wouldn't say like, definitely didn't have like a rebound hunger effect, but I also managed that landing really well, where I titrated down to like very low dose and then came completely off.

and now I have been for a, month. Feel really, good I always say for me, like GLP is obviously like fat loss and inflammation benefits are huge. I miss some of the cognitive benefits, although I would say like, I don't feel like cognitive falling off whatsoever. But I know like once I go back on them and like man, there is a cognitive benefit there, but enough about me. Why don' you just tell people for the first couple of weeks that you've been on Mas Dutide, how it differs from Retta? Is it better, better than Retha?

I actually didn't mean to say that, is it worse? How do you, How you feel so far? So I will say, I feel like I say this about every new peptide that I try, but I do think it's better than, better, than Reta. In the sense of what I've noticed. I still love RETA True Tide. But I think this is going to be, a great peptide option, especially if for women that already have like more sensitive nervous systems because RETA can

like do increase heart rate and everything. So I like Masutai because I'm not getting that nervous, like stimulating, nervous system stimulation at all whatsoever. with it. Do you feel like your heart rate has gone up at all? No, my heart has been nice and steady. I've actually been like, probably like most like nervous system wise, like the comments over probably in the last like two weeks,

maybe three. Um, I think it's like ever since we got back from a forum. So was that like three weeks ago? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I feel like my, since then my nervous system has been like so much calmer. Um, So I. No heart rate issues at all with it. What I like about it is that it feels like. four weeks into right at true time in the sense of like, I feel like I'm already adapted to it a lot quicker in a sense.

I've like. Yeah. Like sometimes you get the appetite increase because metabolism speeding up and like you have to kind of build up to that appetite. The appetite decrease feeling. And I already feel that after just taking it one time and I think The other thing I think is beneficial is that like I don't feel nauseous when it comes to food. Like with like trisapatite, I definitely can get like, oh, like food, just like nothing sounds good to me when I'm on trizapatide,

nothing. Sounds good. To me other than rice cakes and oatmeal. When I monitor his appetite. Um, and with RETTA, I can feel like that too. When I feel that way with reddit, it's usually further along, like deeper into the cycle. Yeah. What I'm on Reda, but even in with Redo, I like, can kind of feel. That way even about like the idea of like heavy fats and like fattier meats. But like with this, don't have that at all. Like it just feels like smooth.

I guess you can say, um, will say like GI wise, I think it's hard for me to say right now if it with the GI system, like I don't feel nauseous, but like, I do have a little bit more of an active bowel movements going on, But I know if that's really the Masutide or if it's from the yogurt that we're doing. Yeah. So, well, that sounds awesome. I think that will come with a territory with any GLP, especially cause you're off for a bit and restarting it.

But again, too, if you were doing a probiotic yogurt, That is obviously going to have an effect at some level. But I think it's interesting. Obviously I haven't tried it yet, but just looking at the data out of all the GLPs that we have, Masdutide has the lowest dropout rate in clinical trials, which is pretty crazy. I would say the fat loss from what I remember off the top of my head is definitely not as good as Reta, But here's the question. does Maz Dutide end up becoming the healthy person's better alternative, because Retta can be so aggressive, which can obviously be good.

And I would say it's still king. However, once you get to your goal weight, is Maz dutied better than Retha for someone that is within a relatively safe range of their body fat, where they want to be? Does Maz do tied end becoming better? That's what I'm interested to kind of assess for myself is like, do I like this better because here's what's interesting is at least from published literature that we have, there's another GLP called servo-dutide. And servodutides, according to the data that I could find, has a GLPs and glucagon agonism, just like Masdotide, but the GLPS is eight times stronger than

the glucogon. So it's basically like semen glutide with a tiny little bit of glucagon agonism added in, whereas masdutide, according to the data that I have read in published trials from the scientists that built it and are testing it, is about an equal proportion of GLP to glucogon. And if we extrapolate that, I know that's not exactly how it works, but if you extrapolated that to, okay, two milligrams of Mazdootide per week, which is what you're doing total. You're splitting that up into two doses.

That means you are getting like one milligram of GLP and one milligrams Glucagon. Well, we know RETA is about like 15 to 20 ish percent glucagon agonism. And so let's say you're doing five milligrams of Reta to get that one milligram of glucagon. Now you are doing a lower dose to. Get the same amount of Glucogon activation. You're getting about the. Same amount. Of GLP, but you. Are taking out that GIP, which is like 60% of.

Rete. Meaning that like the GIP component of it is about 60%. It's not equal three, three parts. It was about sixty percent G I P similar to triseptide, which is like 60 to 80% G. I. P. So you're removing that GIP component. You're basically like taking that out and getting all the benefits of a higher dose of RETTA without the nausea creating effect that the G.I.P. has. Now, I say that did not. The G-I-P actually like offset some of the GLP nauseam.

But what is interesting is you have not experienced the Naja, even that turzapotide causes at a similar dose. Yeah. Is that, would that be, Would that sound appropriate? Meaning that you feel like you're taking a higher dose of RETA. Yes. For the results, but at a lower total dose, of the peptide. Okay. That does make sense. And I'm getting, I feel I am getting results like a lot quicker. Obviously, everyone knows here that I can't lean out and drop too much body fat percentage right now because of fertility.

but I have noticed like I've leaned out a lot quicker the last three weeks with this. And you know what else is interesting because I talk about this a lots with women and I actually was just having a conversation with somebody this week is that sometimes emotionally and mentally, I can feel flat on Retta. Especially if I've been on Rutta for a longer period of time, that can happen. Now, again, this is only three weeks into Massey type, but I don't feel emotionally flat.

And I think not having that Not having that, the G, uh, G I P I think is a big factor right there. Because if you think about it, for Zapotide does do a lot with benefits for addiction. They use it a a with addiction that components now gone with that GIP. I that that's doing something also like it's not triggering dopamine issues, it's not going to have effect on my nervous system and just like the mental

health pathways. Yeah. It could be interesting. I know that's really interesting, there's even the benefits of semaglutide in clinical literature around the addiction component. Stronger. But then it's like, how much of that is coming from the GLP of the turzapotide versus the GIP. We don't really know. It's hard to really say. And we're just kind of scratching the surface of seeing the mental benefits of. That, but it is. This is the first time we talked about the Mental Benefits. So it was also like. Of Mazdootides? Yes. Yeah.

Yes, so it very much like this is not a polished conversation. Well, yeah, it all experimental too. I would say, I think there's less. I would say this, there's less nausea, less issues with Masdutide. It seems so far, and I know new peptide, fresh receptors, even though it's like not fresh, receptors but it still fresh receptor is a new. Peptide new, peptid fresh. Receptors better results faster.

Less side effects. And you see that in literature, albeit the fat loss is not as much as retitrutide, there is more compliance with it. And then if you look at it, fatloss is like very on par with turzapotide. So maybe this is turzipotite, but it works better and faster with less side effects. We'll see. I think it's one of those things like we'll have to hear from more people that are using it Yeah. And obviously it's available in the gray market. Just no one knows about it. No one talks about. Hopefully more people will start to talk about and use it I think it will become more talked about more used as with everything changing with peptides

and everything like in red, possibly getting harder to find maybe at some point on the great market, I However, it is approved in China. That's what's being used in china right now. Inceptor's Aptide, they use Masdutide in Chyna. So maybe they know something we don't. They're way ahead of us. I think it will get approved. It might not be until like 2028 though, that Mazotide gets approved here in the US, but it.

Yeah. And then maybe by 2030, the general populace hopefully has a lot of options when it comes to peptides from a prescribing standpoint. We'll have Mazootides, maybe Servo-Dutide. I've heard really good things about people that talk about Servodutides. More people have used that than Mazodotid. It's the same, but it's much stronger to the GLP, whereas Masdutide is like half and a half. Okay. So it is still just GLPs and glucagon.

Right. Now I've also heard too, from smart people that they're working on making a Retatrutide that would basically be like equal proportions, GLPS, GIP and Glucagon and I would wonder does that, is that better or worse? I don't know in terms of the side effects. Yeah. You know, what's interesting though is I wrote an email this week I get so many questions about Reddit true tide, increasing hunger. And no one really talks about that because it's seem a good touch for Zap Tide. You don't really see that. Red true tides obviously not approved yet, but I hear from so much people that read a church try to increase his hunger,

I will say for me, never really experienced that and I looked for it. In through the years of like, did red increase my hunger? I never got that, But I know people do have it happen. Yeah. So. Like it's interesting when you look into it is I think Reta is so powerful at what it does because it inducing like a caloric deficit and everything. It's kicking, grilling in, it was doing all these things that are creating a state in the body that your body's like just starving.

And then that creates hunger. Then what's. Interesting is that by, I. Think like week 36 of the trials, there was no difference between red true tie to high doses for appetite and placebo. which is really crazy when you think about it. And I think that's even more a testament to the power of Reddit True Tide, that they're not actually noticing as much appetite suppression, but it's still creating as fat loss. Yeah. Which is crazy. If you can think of it, yeah. But, um, Yeah, interesting, Interesting times. I that will be servo two-side, mass two tide, hopefully start to get, get out there more and we'll see.

It's kind of like, I've been, it think it kind like one croon curl and type like first. Yeah. Coagulantide likely will become FDA approved at some point in the next year or two. But it's just one, I like it, but like I don't need it all the time. Some people do really well on it and some people just hate it. It's kind of a coin flip. I've heard people having really bad reactions to now, like recently, and I dunno if this is a sourcing issue or it more of just an actual response to the peptide,

but like really bad allergic reactions to it. Yeah. I've heard a couple of people tell me that. So obviously I have never had it obviously, you know, so just kind of depends. But anyway, well, anything else topically you want to talk about in the Peptide world? Well, I've just been using the Masutide and then using, um, yo-hem beam cream. And I'd been putting that on my stomach before doing, cardio in the morning.

That has pulled a lot of water off of my. Stomach. I really like the cream, have only used oral yo hem beam once. Didn't like it. Injected it once and way too stimulating. Definitely like overly simulating overly jittery for me. But the cream is great because you just you sweat. It does give you a little bit of energy but like, it's not a jittery feeling at all.

I think when you look at the metabolization of creams, you can take something like yohimbine and harness the benefits of it, but because it doesn't peak in the same way that like an oral supplement would, it's a little bit easier to handle. Whereas like if you take yoohimbene orally, It works to like pull water off, especially in lean people if they're trying to get rid of water. But it basically like, well, for me, and I know other people experience this too, it induces like this cold fever feeling and it can make you hypo and you feel nasty. You feel kind of lightheaded.

Like you start to feel that hypoxia feeling of like light headed, cold sweat. Um, so it works, but this doesn't have that, But It seemed to have the same practical effect, which is pretty cool. For me it did. Yeah. It's funny that you know, him being cream actually goes back. People were using that. I'm pretty sure in the nineties. Oh, really? Yeah. It's one of those things that a lot of the bodybuilding people and then, you know, stuff advances and you kind of forget about it, but it's like, Hey, that's a good, good thing.

And that stuff will, it will get you, but it won't make you tweak out. You cannot not do cardio within five minutes of injecting that. Like you literally have to do that, like you have no motivation to cardio, would make sure heart rate basically have like, you to go do something. Otherwise you feel like they're just going to like go crazy. I remember the first time I took that I actually took it and for cardio, I walked across the street to Falls Dam to do cardio walking,

like a hike. I can't remember you telling me this. It was a cloudy day. And I'm pretty sure it was like Saturday morning and I just drove across a street and was going to like go for a real quick. In the 1st 5 minutes I got out of my truck and started walking and within like 30 seconds of walking I was like, what is going on? And I like had to start walking a lot faster because I felt like my heart was going to be on my chest and like 10 or 15 minutes and it like goes away. And then all of a sudden you're just like you have the albuterol feeling just complete like lung clarity, you know, but it is not something to toy around

with for sure. But I think peptide, I don't know. We've been experimenting with peptides creams, like topical peptids the last three weeks and some of them have been really good. And I think we're going to start seeing more of those. I swear, I'm not trying to dangle care. It's like, they're out there, but, um, But I do think they are going be the cartilage cream. Like my knees were bothering me from squatting with our new gym equipment and putting just like cartilages cream on my knee is like one time it like took

the pain away. I don't think it's going to replace injecting if you have a tear or injury, but if kind of you just tweak something in the gym, I think some of the topical BPC, cartilax, TB 500 creams are going be really beneficial. Yeah. Well, I think that's one of those things. It's just more for the mass market people that it'll work better for. Yeah, you know, like, cause like so few people, everyone watching this most watching, this will inject. But anyway, all right, enough of our lives.

Let's get to the questions. Speaking of, our dogs who we were just playing with this morning, Cynthia says, Oh, almost forgot to put the question on the screen. Can you please remind me how to dose testosterone for your dogs, please? My rule of thumb for a male dog would be, what is my formula that I have that came up with is basically 10 milligrams for every 10 pounds of body weight. Every 10 days is what I do.

So our dogs are about 80 pounds. I'd do 80 milligrams every ten days. If you have a female dog, I would take that down to one milligram per 10, pounds per ten. Days. so if you had a 20 pound female, dog that would be two milligrams, every day. Easy enough, right? Somebody might have to listen back to that to say it, but. Males, 10 milligram every 10 pounds every ten days. Females one milligram, every £10 every day.

probably easier to show in written form. Anyway, just think about it. If you have a 50 pound dog that's male use 50 milligrams every 10 days. That's what I would do has worked amazingly well for them. No side effects other than they just don't listen to us. What, but they didn't listening anyway. So I guess that didn' change. They listen when they want to or if there's food involved. Yeah. Can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can give it to her very stuff.

Give it. You can't give a testosterone, But they're really sweet. We're very lucky. Yes. I, we are very, for German shepherds, they, We are lucky for how sweet they are. They're a very nice German shepherd. It's probably questionable. Anything would ever happen. Yeah. No, that would definitely wouldn't protect us if someone had food. But maybe hopefully we're never in a situation where that Any thoughts on 9M, I think it's in M-E-B-C, not MBEC but 9MEBC.

I've never personally used it, but you could use like five to 10 to 15 milligrams per day to reset dopamine sensitivity. It does work well for that. So I would say that would be much more something reserved for people with dopamine issues, even to the side of Parkinson's because that is a dopamine thing. And so it can be good, But I personally don't need it. Sometimes the last thing I need is another nootropic for sure. Cause I'll start doing hunter encyclopedia rants. Whoa, whoa, just talking uninhibited about things that are completely irrelevant.

Cynthia got some MK seven, seven seven. It's good stuff. Seems to be working well for most of the people that we hear from and other people peptide. I put it in the chat guys, but it was mass do tied mass due tied. Did I miss any questions beginning? Oh yeah, we had some before we actually started. Sheena said, when one is on RETTA, slow gastric emptying and pinning any growth hormone, would the stomach still be full at night? Would it be best to take empty stomach AM? A health influencer is suggesting thoughts.

Here are my thoughts, it is relative to the levels of insulin in the body. Just because your gastrict empting slows does not always necessarily mean that your insulin is elevated. And also too, RETA is making you more insulin sensitive to which your insulin would come back to baseline faster in most cases, not all cases for some people in those cases. And so I would actually say you could probably.

I don't think it matters at all, but I would actually say you would probably, it'd probably be the inverse because your insulin sensitivity is better on Reta. Thus your Insulin comes back to baseline faster to what you could probably inject the growth hormone peptide faster, if anything. Now, I think just it's just a net nothing. And I Don't Think It Matters. and the real question in all of this, before I let you talk, why are we doing growth, hormone, peptides anyway? Why are you not taking growth hormones? Not okay.

That's not fair. Cause one, not everybody can, Not everybody has access to them. Not. Everybody can afford. I don't know, ma'am. It's like not that much more expensive if you know what you're doing. Yeah, I get it. What I mean by that is that I never want to be, cause this question made me think about this. I'd never wanna be a person that says, do as I say, not as they do. That's very big to me because that's one of my pet peeves.

And so I want people to call me out. If I'm doing that, I will never sit in with a straight face, tell someone to take a growth hormone peptide over growth. Oh, well now, if you have the option. What a lot of people do is because in the peptid world, you can obviously make money selling growth, hormone, peptides. They talk about those all the time and they use growth hormones. I'm very upfront of what I use when it comes to that. That being said, I don't think the growth hormone peptides are bad. It's one of those things that the people that you hear talking about them a lot of times are using.

Now I get some of those people don't use growth hormone because they're like philosophically differ. If they look like they are a bodybuilder, they have a massive amount of muscle on them. It's one of those things and also this was top of mind this morning too because I was reading this book completely unrelated to health while I'm doing my cardio about finance and psychology, which is one most fascinating things you could study and It talks about how like rich people.

So listen to this for a second. And I promise I will bring this back to what's the name of this book called The Psychology of Money by Morgan household came out in 2020 has been around. It's always like a top 10 business seller. I don't necessarily agree with everything in the book, but it's very enlightening nonetheless. And so in the finance world, you have mutual fund managers and what they do is they manage other people's money via a mutual funds. So I go to them, they say, Hey, we're going to invest your money in this mutual fun. That's a basket of stocks.

And you make money, You know, They manage it for you. Very simple. 50% of mutual Fund managers aren't invested in their own fund. Why would you invest in something that somebody is doing if they are not invested themselves? The question is then at what point or what are they invested in? Because their income depends on you investing in their fund, but they're not actually invested. And so to me, that's like a stakeholder problem of like the person that you're paying to get this result for you is not even invested it.

Yeah. And the reason I said that is because when it comes to let's just take this growth hormone peptide thing, which I've completely like bent to my will to like make another point is a lot of people talk about the growth of our own peptides because they make money, but then they use growth hormones or they don't tell people they used growth. And I know some people do, yeah, it's like the natural, the, natural bodybuilders that we, there's that, that too. Um, which is a weird thing in today's age that you would still be like that.

But it's also, it just, like a vested interest thing. For me, it's always been easier to just say, Hey, I use this. Here's what you can do. I will talk about growth hormone peptides all day. Obviously I've used them all. obviously I still use them sometimes for like specific use cases, but I just think, you know, what's interesting too about the growth, hormone, peptide is a lot of times you, can't control the amount of IGF that you end up getting out of those. And sometimes it is too much for people.

Whereas with growth hormones, You can precisely, basically you half an IU. You can do one IU, two IUs, and you can basically like titrate up and down how you respond so that you don't get the water retention or anything. Sometimes with the peptides, any dose is going to create this like cascade that just maybe it's good or maybe not. And it just, it, pretty variable, whereas the growth hormone is not and so anyway, I just say that to say, A lot of people use growth hormone, they don't talk about it.

And I think it's superior to the growth of peptides. But to answer the question, I don' think is a big deal. I mean, it is fine. At the end of the day too, those, like, if someone, let's say you went and ate a turkey sandwich and then injected your CJC and IPA right before and right after, you're still going to get a benefit. The question is like how much benefit? Like how is rate limited by the insulin spike? We obviously know it's some, but then again, we don't know. Yeah. But the question is, I think less important is the gastric emptying.

More important it is. The insulin response and how fast your insulin comes back down, how best insulin works, blood sugar comes down. And the counter to this would be like, well, wouldn't Reta make you more insulin sensitive? Therefore your blood should come back on faster. Unless if you're taking like a SGL two, or if your taking a metformin, berberine. Yeah. Then this question, like, what if you took an SGLT two and then, or then it wouldn't matter at all. Cause you just end up like peeing it out. So I don't know. Um, again, until you actually test this, it'd be hard to say.

But those are the thoughts around that. Sorry for the rabbit hole, but it related to something that I was thinking about. Uh, Sorry, I'm trying to find my place back in the questions because I went back up to the top. Renata says, can you recap what minus GIP means? So basically retitrutide has GLP-1 agonism, G-I-P agdonism and glucagon aggonism. And masdutide basically removes the G.I.P.

which is I think is shorthand for gastrointestinal polypeptide. That's what G I P stands for. What yogurt are you doing? It's just a homemade, one of my good girlfriends is making a home made yogurt right now. And it's actually more of like medicine rather than like for actual, just like yogurt. So it was like, I basically take like a, anywhere from like teaspoon to a tablespoon of this yogurt every morning and every,

she makes a new batch like every week. We're going to have her on the podcast soon, so maybe she can explain. Stay tuned. Explain it more. She definitely would explain it better than I could. Yes, she is. MK777 dose 10 milligrams at night. Can I take it in the morning? Would I be able to dose up to 20 milligrams a week, week three? Can you add IPA? I would see no reason to add IPA on top of that because they're similar mechanisms.

They're both ghrelin agonists. So I don't see, you see a reason You could definitely do 10 milligrams a night and 10 grams in the morning. I don't really know what the half-life is. Cause we don' really. This kind of just made its way out there. If it's similar to MK six seven seven, you probably wouldn't need to dose it in. But I. And so I can't say, I think you would harm yourself though, if you took it. Uh, as opposed to at night, but when I've just taken it at. It works throughout the day. Like when. The next day I could.

Yeah. But I would just see what you like best. But, I think 20 milligrams to me would be the upper end of the dosing for that. Yeah. I like 10 milligrams. 10 mg is good. 20 mg, but I wouldn't go higher than 20mg. Here's a really good question. How do you feel about using Telmasartan as a preventative care for endothelial health while on a true TRT dose, which is 120 mg per week of an anthate? I ask because my blood pressure was slightly elevated to 131.80. I actually talked to Dr.

Abid Hussain who she, you should go check him out. He's a Boulder Longevity Institute. I did a podcast with him and we actually mentioned Telmasartan and he takes it every day and He is a very fit, very active, athletic guy. And so I would say, yes, absolutely. The standard dose is 80 milligrams. You definitely don't need that much. Especially if your blood pressure is 130 over 80, just like 20 milligrams a day would work really well. 20 milligrams would be kind of like that microdose that you would get those benefits, but you don't need to get like the high blood pressure case benefits.

And so I would say absolutely. I have heard it from doctors that personally do that. It's part of their own protocol back to the stakeholder thing. He actually uses that every day in his life and he likes it. With an addition of an SGLT-2, I used to do telmasartan every day at 20 milligrams for this reason. With the SglT2s, my blood pressure was dropping too low. So when you combine an SLT with telmosartane for someone who's already healthy.

Yeah. I think the SGLT-2 has a similar effect on blood pressure. And so like the Telmasartan is more manually forcing the blood to lower. To me that meant it was too low. So you get that kind of dizzy feeling when you stand up and everything. I stopped taking it because I was taking the SGLT2. If I didn't have that, I would be taking TelmaSartin. Or if I was taking a bunch of gear and my blood pressure started to go up, I would add it until my starting for sure.

If I. Was doing like half a gram test or something like that, uh, for when the time comes, not anytime soon, but anyway, that's my thoughts. And most men need that. I don't think women need as much women, obviously blood pressures can be an issue for some women. But men I think are proportionately the ones that struggle with high blood Lana says, I used TURS 2.5 milligrams to lose weight over eight months. I reached my goal weight when I taper off while maintaining calorie deficit I saw about 10 pound weight gain.

How do I take off Turs without gaining weight? Hmm. Well, here is the thing is I don't know enough about the situation, but what I would say is that in the presence of HRT plus thyroid optimization, plus growth hormone peptides or growth, hormone optimization. This should be a non-issue. Meaning that if everything else in a, from a pathway standpoint is addressed, if you're doing everything right, which it sounds like you are because you

lost weight, you got your goal weight. I think this is one of those things where the GLP people you ever heard the saying live by the sword, die by this sword. This is what some people are doing is living by in the store and dying by. By using the glp is the one thing that gets you to your gold weight or doesn't Yeah. And so it's like, when you use it, it is great. When you lose it. It's bad. But clinical trials, women postmenopausal on HRT versus not using triseptide had 35% greater weight loss.

Also too, what does that mean that when they come off? They're going to relapse. If they don't have the hormones, they're likely going relapsed versus the hormone are going continue the metabolic momentum that they've had. That would be my thoughts. What do you think? No, I agree. I definitely, would have said the same thing. Well, as someone would you say when you came off of GOP most recently in the last two months, did you gain your way back? Not necessarily now. Like I didn't gain like all my weight back, but I mean, I did gain some weight.

I wasn't using it for weight loss. But do you notice some gain? Yes. My weight gain was muscle mass because I. Didn't change what I was eating. Portions might have been higher, but I was still eating clean carbohydrates. I still eat healthy meals and not overindulgent. Also, I don't drink alcohol. That makes a big difference. But that makes the difference, especially when you're cycled off of GLPs if you are a social drinker.

Not saying this person is, But I know like when I'm off of it, I am gaining muscle, which is why I've talked about in the past about like cycling your peptides along with cycling out your exercise plans. So it's like if you lost your goal weight, Obviously you've lost a significant amount of body fat, hopefully, which is good. Now, anytime you go through a big change and drop like that, chances are you are going to possibly lose a little bit of muscle along with it,

especially if you're not on hormones. So now instead of looking at as, as like gaining the weight back now it's time to let's, okay, now let us switch up our cycle, our fitness cycle. Cause if. You were. in a fat loss mode, your fitness should be also like complimenting maps. Now you're off of it. Let's focus on gaining muscle. Therefore, you are going to be in calorie surplus, but at least you re gaining muscles. You're not necessarily like, are you going gain fat a little bit with that?

Yes, because it has to sit somewhere in some cases. But this is why I like getting Bod Pod scans done and Dexa scans is so beneficial when you working with peptides and when you're in fat loss and muscle gaining modes. So I think that, you know, that's kind of how psychologically like how I try to like teach women to utilize peptide because it does for women psychologically mess with us when we see the scale go up. Like I personally, I do not weigh myself at home.

Maybe like twice a year. But if I know I'm not on a GLP, I am not going to weigh myself because I now the number is going be higher on the scale. And muscle weighs more than fat. So if people were to guess my weight, they probably wouldn't be able to get the correct weight that I actually am. Unless you're me. Unless you're you. That also comes from years of being competitive athlete. Yeah. There's also being in the health and fitness world, but like a stranger on the street wouldn't think that my body weight is what it is.

But yeah. I think it's a, um, It's kind of like you're dealing with the cards you have dealt. And so like, if you were on a GLP, use the situational. Yeah. What's the weight gain? Is it water? Wait, is it fat? Yeah, that's. The whole problem is like 10 pound weight game. Was it all fat or was it? Water was. Yeah. So it's a, there's lot of variables to which someone like, and I feel like a lot people beat themselves up unnecessarily.

It's like oh, I gained 10 pounds and that was the one variable that they tried. Did you gain 10 lbs, but do your, do you're clothes still fit? Like what are your inches? What are, your clothes, still. Yeah, Also, too, I will always go back to the mirror. Like I can track in a mirror and my photos. Yeah, that's not looking good. Tighten it up. Versus like, OK, we're like sitting good right now. Very good question. I think very appropriate to what a lot of people are dealing with this as a very common thing.

What's up, Kelly? She says, please, give your thoughts on rapamycin for resetting hyperactive mTOR and activating autophagy. Any thoughts in general? Here's what I think, I, think rapamycin does what it does really well. Taylor's looking at me like what? No, you're fine. No. Are you good? Yeah. Rapamycin does, what does does well, which is suppress mTOR, or which can be good for longevity. However, that is not necessarily always the best thing. If you suppress MTOR too much, You will begin to lose muscle, Which then becomes counterproductive for Longevity.

I think if you wanted to do like six milligrams once a week of rapamycin, I don't have an issue with that. I would probably say that would be someone in their fifties and sixties. Also too, we have a lot of other agents out there right now that kind of give us this suppression of mTOR benefit without some of the drawbacks of rapamycin, one being ATX 304, another being the gold standard metformin. And so if you give me met formin, rapamysin ATx, I would pick that form in AT X over rapomycin because I'm not going to have rapamycin is so much stronger

than them. Now there is a lot of data around around rapamysin being used in clinical trials for anti-aging and it's pretty good. However, just know that that is, a consequence of it. And so I think given the tools that we have right now, and this is variable to change it, this like could very well change in the future as far as like where I stand on it I, think there's so, much out there that Between GLPs and MPK activators and SGLT2s, like, I just don't think we need it to get the

result that we want. Like, is rapamycin that much better than those things, given the drawbacks of it, which is like the catabolic nature of suppressing mTOR? I don' think so. But I would concede that it's once a week or once every two weeks could be used like for a day or two for like a recovery phase because of what it does, which is like reduce or increase MCOR in, excuse me, inhibit mTOR and increase autophagy when we can kind of get some of those same effects from other things.

So that would be my opinion on it. Relevant, but I think there's better stuff. Witt says, been watching somebody reach their goal weight on TURZ and RETTA, but as a type two diabetic after 15 months, still 30 pounds off. Any tips for a Type Two diabetic to reach. Their goal. Wait, I would need to know more in terms of like the hormone piece of that, because if someone is still. 30 Pounds off from using Turs and Retta, especially if they're in higher doses, um, something is not working with the hormones,

the thyroid. I think this could be like a very clear indicator that the thought has become exhausted and is no longer functioning. So that's why you could thyroid by regulators. You could do desiccated thyroid would be my preferred method. And I there's obviously other pathways we could like mitochondrial peptides, things of that nature. I think this could be one of those things, like it might be diet, meaning that it could, is it a high fat, low carb diet?

Whereas like a medium carb, high protein, moderate fat diet is going to be a little bit better. And so there's a lot there, especially for a type two diabetic. I'm not going to tell a type two diabetic how to eat. I will tell you that I've seen type 2 diabetics reverse diabetes by retraining their insulin sensitivity using fruit fasting, using lower fat diets to do that. And usually type of diabolics are definitely afraid of carbs and they try to like six small meals of fats, carbs, and protein.

It becomes very hard to get off that roller coaster. Then the fiber like throw it in there too on top of that? Well, the combination of the fats and the carbs, whereas if you take a type two diabetic, they're not producing insulin as well. I know it's the type 2 diabetes. You give them just fruit all of a sudden, like you're reach, you re-training their insulin sensitive, basically like taking their body back to the gym to understand how to digest carbohydrates. Oh, some of that fiber and fats being together, right? The carbs and fat being to together is an issue for type-two diabetics because it Elevates basically the, the carbs elevate the blood sugar and the fat

sustain the elevation. If you remove the fats and a protein, you increase blood, sugar, but your body becomes better at bringing, uh, using the insulin to bring the. Back down. And so I would do that. I think that's one of those things. Like if the GLPs, if you're living and dying by the sword, so to speak, um, obviously hormones are important. Thyroids important, and then also to comes a diet and training and all those.

Laura says, I started 20 milligrams twice a week and had nausea switched to 40 milligrams. My nauseous gone away. I'm not sure what I mean. And you have Masochide? I don't know how you would take 40mg of Masdotide or any GLP for that matter. What peptide has the best effects for kidney health? That is SS 31. If you use 10 to 20mgs per day of SS31, you will notice really good benefits for kidneys.

SGLT-2s as well, although not a peptide. Very, very beneficial for kidney disease. Anybody? Ironically enough, I had a friend ask me this, what could help their kidneys? SS31 and SglT2. There's other things you could do as Well, but those two would really move fast. And Wolverine Snack, that's absolutely beneficial. It's not going to hurt at all. No, it wouldn't be the first thing though. My husband started HRT three months ago, estradiol was 40 now 247 total test was 392 now 1035 free 278 now 802. I don't know if there's a question also

to those units of measurement for the two and test or Canadian and European. And off the top of my head, I don't have those like in terms of just what I know about the American measurements. I'm hungrier on Reda, but I've still losing weight. need the hunger as I was not eating enough.

Very true. That's the one thing that we forget is that hunger is an indication that your body needs something. If we were to remove hunger, It would be like there could be a lot of hunger, like hunger. That's like one thing, when people are like, oh, I still have, there's a difference between hunger and food noise. And I think sometimes people get those mixed up, but you need to have hunger you.

Need to be able to get your healthy amount of macros in. Yeah. And I think that's two words for red is so beneficial because if you're not as hungry, that could be a good thing because it's still doing what it does, which is make great fat loss. Yeah. Mike says, can MK 777 be taken pre-workout? Yeah, definitely could. I didn't ever experiment with that just because I got good effects from taking night. You could take it pre workout, like taking a night and take a pre work out. Sure. They could probably work well. Is there something I can stack with Reta? My scale hasn't moved.

HRT, thyroid, and then I would say growth hormone or growth-hormone peptide, mitochondria peptides. And I will start there before I go to anything else. Again, like get a Botpox scan so you can see. Yeah. I mean, the scale has not moved, it's like, what does that mean? Yeah, you actually might be going in the right direction and you don't know it. Or not, you could be going in the reverse direction, but. Lana says, great podcast on LDN.

I take LDM in the morning because it destructs my sleep. Well, I still get the same benefits compared to taking night. Pretty much. Yeah. And I think the timing of how the endorphin release is going to be a little bit different, but I would say for the cumulative anti-inflammatory benefit and immune system benefit. Yes. There's, there's a good portion of people that can't take it at night to simulate them. It's like 25% people don't really do well with it. Now, when you first start taking it, you might not do well at night, but if you give it a few days, then it usually goes away.

But then some people just still can't. And that's fine. Any updates on the state of my former channel? No, But if go to library.hunterwilliamshealth.com, I've got all my old videos there and you can actually search the transcripts. I actually got that done yesterday, amongst other things. Which I'm going to talk about. Well, i was working on it on Thursday. But if you go to library.hunterwilliamshealth.com, I was able to upload all my old videos and you can actually search them and it will search the transcript.

So if want to be like, whenever I talked about LDN. Tessa Morellen, it'll pull up all the videos that have that in the transcript. And so you can go watch it. I think there's like 214 videos or something on there. Uh, I need to be good about making sure that backup all these new videos to that as well in case any shenanigans. So, uh, but that's the best place to go. Good question here. I haven't seen in a while. Can people on SSRIs take tesofensine? I personally would not. Tesofencine is a triple reuptake inhibitor.

And so once you start mixing those, I don't know. Oh, here's the question. This was kind of, it was cut off before the clinic's pressure to use AI, but feels fantastic. Absolutely. No side effects thoughts do not use an aromatase inhibitor.

If you feel good. you need higher levels of estrogen when your testosterone is higher. And because your estrogen goes up, and again, I don't know the picomole reference ranges for estrogen. So I'm, don' t have it to compare to like the American units of estrogens. But if you feel good, do not use it. You will feel better with higher level of Estrogen that are proportionally relevant to the amount of testosterone in your body.

I would say politely, no thank you, i don t need that. and have a nice day or just take it and throw it in the trash if they really want to like make you like prescribe one to you just be like okay and then throw in trash. Dosing and frequency for cartilax knee injection should be combined with TB, BPC. Yeah you can definitely combine it with Bpc and TB 500. I would do once a day one two milligrams per day and see where that takes you and give it at least a few weeks and ideally like eight weeks if you do have issues.

Will there be any peptides for prevention or treatment of macular degeneration? There's actually a lot of clinical data around SS31 preventing macula degeneration. I will be interested to see how humanin does because human in is also a mitochondrial peptide that works more specifically in the brain that could do that. And there's obviously like some of the eye bioregulators that you could get that I think, I guess the 31 and then BPC and TB 500 eye drops do better than the bi regulators, but you can use all of those together.

And help with that. Yep. Good. Taylor's give me the look. I don't know. Sure. Yes. Uh, I've answered this before. Do not have thoughts on follow stat. So no thoughts. Best protocol for running SS 31. Can you be on red at the same time? You definitely can be unread at, at same. Um, best protocol, I think one to two milligrams per day would be like the longevity optimization dose. Five to 10 milligrams a day. Would be more of like a chronic acute issue dose and then 10 to 20 milligrams for day, would it be severe issues that you were trying to heal now?

Like if someone was. And stay to work kidney disease or something like that. Those would be the higher doses. And I mean, in clinical settings, they use 40 milligrams intravenously per day. So there's no downside to doing that other than cost. You okay? Yeah. You sure? You good? Is there something that you need to tell me? Am I doing something? Taylor's looking at me like, well, she's giving me a look when I do something wrong.

And so now I'm paranoid that I am doing anything wrong? Sure. Do you have to use the bathroom? Do I need a bathroom break? Just keep going. Am i talking too much? As for the timing, the GH peptide and insulin with CGM help to see if your insulin is still elevated. Yeah, obviously it would, it's going to track your blood sugar, but yeah, you could say like, Hey, if my blood sugars still really high, um, like you can use that as a proxy to measure where specifically do you get growth hormone?

I don't know. And don' ask me in public settings because that could compromise the mission. So that is not for public consumption. You can go to the doctor and get it. I'm on 2.5 milligrams of reddit and my liver and kidney markers look bad all of a sudden when prior they were clean. Is this typical? It's not typical. You have any thoughts? I am just going to sit and do all the questions myself.

No, it's not. I do think in some cases, liver and kidney markers would be weird that they would not improve. I do think in some cases like Reta is stimulating the nervous system, which could then like increase cortisol, like then downstream could have potentially a negative effect, but no. And it's kind of one of those things like, is it the RETA or is a lot of times when we introduce peptides, I, do this myself. We always default to like something is wrong. It must be the peptide. Yeah. That's like we, we forget how many variables at any given time are going on in our lives.

Well, unless people will drink less water on GLPs. So it's like, also like this to me sounds like more of a detox. Issue. It could be, it definitely could. Yeah. Um, no, but typically like liver fat reverses like lever and liver metrics improve monumentally on right up. And so I'm not saying it. No. But I'll also say, I just see what else is, um, What other variables could you kind of put in there and evaluate?

Oh, thank you for the kind words. FPP, they said, looking for BPC 157 dosing for rotator cuff and back pain. Like how much and how often. Let's start with 500 micrograms twice per day and do that until it heals. And then you could throw in some other goodies too, like TB 500, cartilax. You can take it GHK if it doesn't burn too bad. I'm about to add AR-A290 and the mix for pain relief is a better to stack with TB500 and BPC or IPA and TESA. I rotate those.

Um, I don't think you have to, you can use all of those, But in terms of stacking for pain, absolutely TB 500 and BPC would be better for that. But I've heard really good things. I think ARE 290 is one of those. It's very underrated for, pain and neuropathy. And it's just lesser known, but the people that I hear that use it, fortunately, that's not something I deal with. So I don't need to use that, like the, people who use, it get really, good results from it in most cases. Debbie says, I'm starting my sixth week of Chloe and impressed with the progress.

What do you suggest to take on my four week break after my 10th week? I take it Monday, Friday off. weekends. I mean, you don't necessarily need to take anything in its place. And I don' know if you're using it for a specific, it's like an injury or is it just for general recovery and anti-inflammatory purposes. Um, but if he wanted to like kind of keep the momentum going from clow, if it' like a joint thing, You could take cartilax. That would be a good off cycle thing. Could rotate into cartillax, PEG, MGF.

Those are good. ARA 290, depending on But if it's just for general anti-inflammatory purposes, you might not need anything. You can just kind of, if you're feeling good. Yeah. Might not. It's a good question. And ultimately I will tell you, I don't know the exact answer, but it good thing to bring up. There was a mistranslation about epithalium in the study. They use epitallium. That's why dosages were around 10 milligrams, but the epitalium dosage is around 100 micrograms.

Do I know anything? Yes. I err on the side of using the lower doses. So if you were to say 10mg or 100mcg per day, I would use 100 mc. I personally use like one milligram a day for like 10 to 20 days and then that's it and I'll go off of it. And so that is kind of my preferred method. Now, I don't know if that right according to the Russian literature because again, there's like this mistranslation issue that no one seems to really know the answer. Yeah. I'm not going to claim I definitively know for sure.

So I err on the side. But there are some people who do like ten milligrams a days for ten days. Don't think you need that much. One milligram day, for me, is always unreal. well for like improved sleep and everything. I think if you're going to do one, err on the side of the lower dose. A lot of bioregulators, they say you only need like 200 micrograms, 300 micro grams. The dosing is better for the injectables of like one to two milligrams to see results. And I, think, if we're doing that over a 36 day period, it's not going be too much.

But I would definitely err, on this side, of doing the low dose of those. Are there any peptides or agents that target glucagon receptors that are not GLP? Not to my knowledge, although that may be something that people are working on. Yeah. But the issue I think with that is that the glucogon would raise blood sugar and what offsets that, is the GLPs. And so I don't know that we necessarily want that. It will increase energy expenditure, but at the cost it might increase blood sugars.

So, again, I'm not smart enough to say one way or the other. Sheena says hubs has hygienic lipo protein, any subs or peps or any way he can bring it down. He's very lean on TRT. Um, I would try the first thing I'll try and just give this a shot. Cause usually this works really well is citrus bergamot is a supplement that you could use obviously like GLPs and SGLT twos and stuff like will translate, improve, uh, some of those cholesterol markers, but I will try citrus Bergamott and see what that does first.

I take that, um, most days. Wondering if you can take Tessamerelin with MK677. You could, although I probably would not combine those at the same time. I would just use them in different cycles. They are different mechanistically. So the Tessemerelins are GHRH and the MK is a small molecule GHRP. And so they're different. And I know the thought is like, well, I can combine tests on it, but why can't I combine test on MK?

Like you're gonna be so bloated. That would be the recipe for the bloating. You would definitely be like that's like Michelin Man Stack. Yeah. If you want to look like the Michel in the man, take those. So, uh, however, if someone was like a hard gainer, they wanted to, like if they're really skinny, that would probably help them fill out. Kelly, I don't know. Do we know if the yogurt is El Rotary? It is the one that we have right now. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Good for gut inflammation, immune system.

Terrell says I'm overthinking, but looking for your recommendation, timing of two, I use GH AM or pre-bed. What are you guys taking yours? I just do mine at night before bed. If you really want it to, you I've done morning in bed before or morning and prebed before. So you do one IU AM, one IU PM. I think at the end of the day, when it comes down to growth hormone, just take it. That's the best thing. And then you can get into the nuances. Yeah. I've done every which way. I have done morning and night.

Morning makes a difference for fat loss. It's hard because it's like if you're doing it and then you are doing cardio, it is like, man, the fatloss is better. Was it or did it matter that you took it in the morning? Do it at night and do cardio in morning still? I think there is still enough in your system if do it night, and that's cardio. For me, I just get more benefits taking it a night for better sleep.

Yeah. You got to play around with it and see what, see, what you prefer and like best. What up echo. He says annual budget for blood testing company recommend looking three or four times a year. Also big need to talk about find a doctor to consult on peptides, but they are dumb. Yeah, find the doctor. I say that like there's a lot of doctors I love and appreciate, Blood testing I have, so if you go to a website called vanguardperform.com,

I don't really promote this that much, but I've a friend that has a site called VanguardPerformed.Com. What that is, is a discount lab testing site. They do labs and volume through Quest, and you can get like a total mail panel for like four or 15. And if you use code HunterW, you get 10% off. So it's even under 400 bucks if use that. That's the cheapest one I know. Again, when the lab-testing is commodity product, they're not getting any quality. Quest is Quest. LabCorp is Labcorp. I need to put that in my email footer just because I get asked all the time.

But yeah, Vanguardperform.com and use code 100W. You can do labs three to four times a year for under 1200 bucks, which you think about it, like some people pay 1200 for one lab. So you can get those done on your own. Yeah. And you could probably get it done cheaper through that than with insurance. Oh, absolutely. On your home in some cases. Insurance isn't going to cover most of the things. Yeah. Insurance is a joke.

Brad says, if I take one gram of TRT a day, is that optimal gay muscle and stage act? Yes, it is. Thank you. That was a very good comic relief. Yes. Thanks, Brad. Yeah, seven grams a week. You'll be good to go. Insulin sensitivity will be through the roof. Um, yeah, Kelly says husband took Jordan's the morning and his regular low start in the evening and practically passed out. He's going to stop the low sartan and see if blood pressure stays low enough without it. Thoughts. That's exactly what I was talking about. Kelly is like, in a lot of cases, the Jordy is so good at what it does that it transit it indirectly lowers blood.

And so when you combine the Lowe's sarten or to tell us certain on top of that, uh, it ends up being too much because that's like a manual lever for lowering blood, pressure. It's kind of one of those things like some of these like. diabetes medications like GLPs, SGLT2s, they end up removing all these other medications a lot of people have to take because of what they do. You fix metabolic health and it fixes so many things.

I mean, in a perfect world you would, but I wouldn't say someone like, there's no magic rule that like in eight weeks you have to stop. I would just be aware that as you continue on them for longer, the results will start to diminish. And so the way you feel right now is really good. But by week 16, is it going to be the same? Probably still see some results, but like, it's not going be as strong. And that's why you cycle on cycle off, like reset the sensitivity to those.

Again, I don't say like you have to stop, But it wouldn't be bad to say, okay, i'm going take two to four weeks off and then jump back on. Becca says, do you have experience with ActoVegin dosing? Same question for cerebroneurigen. I have both in amples. So I don't really know about that because I've never used it. Cerebrroneurigin is basically cerebroliacin. And so you would dose that the same way. For anyone who wants to know the clinical dosage for cerebral liacine, one, you can go to my library, which is now up, library.hunterwilliamshealth.com.

Type in cerebral liaison in all the videos that I talk about it, including a comprehensive guide will come up. You can also go to cerebrallyson.com click I'm a provider. They just, you don't have to like fill in anything. It just says, they just want you to click. I am a Provider. And then you can look at all of the instructions on how to use Cerebral Lysen. they have charts and everything on there. and so like, that's what I always default people to, especially with the Amples, because they're, You're doing the same thing as the manufacturer. What's up, Johnny? He says, I knew you guys like ATX, but there's still not much info on it.

Could you go over how it's different from SLU and how you would maybe utilize it in cycle? Yes. All right. Think about SL U as a mitochondrial enhancer. It basically is an estrogen related receptor agonist. And by working on that pathway, it is going to increase mitochondria biogenesis, which is gonna up-regulate these pathways that improve mitochondrion function that then will increase energy, help us burn fat and everything. ATX is not like that at all. ATx, we were talking about mTOR and AMPK earlier.

Atx is an AMPk activator, which means it activates AMP and peripheral tissue, Which then induces autophagy pathways that will then basically induce, when we think of autopsy, think about fasting, rest and relax. not muscle building and not growth, that's what ATX does. So by inducing more of like a fasting state in the body, it's going to help improve insulin sensitivity, cholesterol, all those things that we get from

the benefits of fasting. That's basically what at x is doing. Yeah. Then have the drawbacks of metformin. You don't lose muscle or anything like that. Not that it does, but anyway, ATX is like a better version of Metformins that also has like pretty good fat loss benefits because of the AMPK activation. Whereas SLU is completely on the other side. And the reason that I like that is you can definitely like overdo it with the AMPK activation. It's much harder to do that.

Whereas like if you over do it, with SL you, you're basically, or the way to think about it is that you are putting your car in the garage with a door closed and revving the engine and making a bunch of exhaust. At some point that's going to come back to bite you. Yeah. That's what can happen with an SL if it gets taken too far. Yeah. And if your mitochondria isn't in a good state. Yeah, if you have a bad car, it's going to be even worse. It's gonna be worse if the mitochondrion is not in good condition prior to using SLU. Old 1987 F-150 in the garage.

Probably even worst than a 2026 Tahoe. Why are you trolling me right now? You have been troling me this morning. You just gave me the look like I was doing something wrong. So now I'm like paranoid that I am doing some of the wrong Are you sure? Are thinking of something? It's either the I-am-doing-something-wrong look or you're thinking about something completely unrelated or somebody said like a mean comment and you don't

want to like acknowledge it. Someone said something mean. This is our lives guys. If we were having coffee on our porch right now, this would, would be what's going on. We just don't have a stream of questions coming in, but this is, it would like how the conversation would look. So, um, what was it that it's best peptide to lose muscle.

Either they just, it's like a type of, or they were just being funny. Cause they said best peptide to lose muscle, but keep muscle. I think they meant to say that's peptides to loose fat, keep my soul to which I would say testosterone. And I'm joking. But, um, read a true tide obviously would be pretty good at losing fat. If you're doing everything right, you muscle sorry.

Just the way I like, I read that is I was like taking it so seriously. That's like read it again. Um, what's up? So Fifi, uh, the question is, using red at 0.3 to 0 .4 milligrams per week, still amps tinnitus, but knocked out histamine response and losing weight. I'm going to try to see how it goes. Can I just switch midstream at that low of a dose? I would, that would be fine. Like I could, I have no issue switching the dose at .3 or . 4 doing the same dose of trisapatite.

And you probably still get that same benefit. Maybe minus the tannitus. Haven't heard of that, you know, it definitely can happen. How do you lower SHBG? What I would do is take some boron and zinc first. I want to make sure that I'm getting rid of all excess body fat that doesn't need to be there.

You kind of have to sit back and say like, okay, what do I do now? And then I think for a man, the easiest thing to like manually do this is obviously something like a proviron, which can just, it'll just hammer it down really fast. And so that would be like the fast answer. But what I would say is like why is it high? Can we address all those things first before I just say, Okay, go take 25 milligrams of provyron per day and be on your way. That would do it. What's your favorite pre-workout for a training day that isn't an injectable and can you stack injectible CMAX and C-Link?

Easy question to answer. Yes, you can definitely stack. Injectable Cmax and c-link. You can inject those, your nasal spray. Those are totally fine to use together. I'll let Taylor go first. What is your favourite pre workout? I would say the, probably the ones from unmatch are my favorite. I love that. I like the stimulating one. They have like a non-stimulating one, the BH2K. Yeah. That's the one that has the paroxanthine in it.

Paroxyanthin is pretty sweet. Like that's probably my favorite. The Dissident, which doesn't have that in. It's a Non-STEM pump, but those do work really well. Oral pre-workouts that are not anabolic. Dada you can do oral DADA or transdermal DADA for sure. Um, I wouldn't probably like pre lifting. I would not do the yohimbine cream. No, that's a pre-workout cardio.

Think of that for cardio, um, ATX. That's great. Pre cardio workout. Or post lifting or post-lifting for like a fasting cardio day. Yeah. I think about that the same way. Like I would not take metformin around the lift. Would not do ATX around lift because you want the mTOR to create the muscles there. But yeah, I, think unmatched, my code there is 100W as well. If you wanted to like, it's only like 10% off, but great stuff, great products.

They just came out with new protein powders and they're so good. The grass-fed whey and the French vanilla, Yeah. It's amazing. We really like this brand called Podium that has French vanilla and it's harder to find now. You can't find it anymore. Used to be on Amazon. I don't think it is on amazon anymore, you might have to. They used to have vitamin shops. Yeah, it used be a vitamin shop. Its not there anymore their vanilla buttercream was really good. And we would make the ninja creamy ice cream with it. But now we've been doing Greek yogurt with the unmatched whey and that is really.

Good. You got to cut it with milk though. Cause I tried making it. I did make it one night with just Greek yogurt and it was a little too tangy. Which if you're using like organic grass fed Greek, yogurt, like it is a lot more like tangier and sour. Yeah. But that's, that my favorite. There's so many pre-workouts out there. Um, but that would be my recommendation.

Unmatch is the only one that doesn't like hurt my stomach. Yeah. Thank you. Great. Uh, they said great deep dive on LDN. I'm looking forward to seeing if it may help with perimenopause specifically cognitive issues, inflammation. So I think women shine like LDM shines. Every woman should be on it. You know, maybe let's talk about that for a second. Cause you went off of it and then have like resumed going back on. How do you feel since being back?

Cause you're like, I'm just not like feeling it right now. He took some time off. Yeah, it took sometime off and I don't know. I feel, i mean, and i feel like my nerve, like I, feel inflammation wise, Like I. Don't feel. Like i have any inflammation going on. i think my sleep is better. My cortisol feels a lot better? Yeah. Okay. Renata says, I've heard recently about another peptide similar to BPC 157. A few letters as well, but forgot the name.

It was allergic to be prescribed. I think they meant allowed to prescribed online by doctors. Yes, that is called a Penta deca peptides. it's called PDA basically. Um, is it? Yeah. It's like penta decapeptide something. But basically it like BPC-137. I think it is almost the exact same thing. They just changed the name of it for doctors to be able to prescribe it. Yes. Same thing, you can buy it from like places. There might be like a slight tweak to the molecule or something, but Bpc-147 is a pinta decapeptide.

So it' like Penta Decapeptide, I really think they just kind of changed It's kind of like saying, again, I know it might be a little bit different, but like how research sites call it, like GLP-3, you know, that's what it says. Echo says, I'm planning a short senolytic FoxO4 for micro YK11 cycle, planning carefully, great bloods, first senolox cycle using peptides and PDs for about two years, support stack recommendations. Yeah, the Fox04 is going to be good.

You might have a little bit of flu-like symptoms if you run one milligram a day for 10 days in a row, that would be a recommended cycle. The YK-11, I'm kind of like, don't want to go, like I personally wouldn't go to the Y-K11. Y K11 is a myostatin inhibitor, but it can have, you know, we talked about myostatin inhibition. I am not going to make this like a talk about that, there's just things you have to be ready for that can be negative side effects. Yeah. So I feel like their immune system is going That's one of the side effects, um, potential and the white.

Yeah, that could be. I get it because it's like use the Foxo four to like clean the system and then be like in a good state. But I wouldn't do it. Like I would like give it at least a week or two after the fox and four, if you're going to do that. Here's my thing is like, why would I use YK 11 when I could use growth hormone? Cause I'll get as good benefit, like test growth, hormone, primo, If you really want to get Jack all day. Like those are so, yeah, they're so tried and true. So much human data works so well versus like YK 11. We don't really know what the unintended consequences of it are.

And we know there are some bad ones. That's not like my territory as much of like going into like the PED side, but I mean, it is pretty hard to beat test primo and GH. Yeah. test primo GH is like, like you know, and the shape of the muscle that you get with it, I think is a lot more dense. It's harder. I feel like when I've seen people with the mindset inhibitors, it's going to be more of a water look.

Yeah. For sure. Can MK777 cause bloating and hunger? I did not experience that with. In my experience, that did Like 677. Yeah. Could and does. So Robert he says free test 227 and test by available 448. What's the difference between the two? SHBG 34. It's just a calculation difference. So they're just doing some sort of calculation.

I don't know off the top of my head. The bioavailable tests are just like measuring total minus SHBG or something like that. And then the free test is actually like a Calculation of free testosterone in the blood. Um, I would look more at the freetest and then SHPG, but that's HPG. That's fine. It was a little on the higher end, Couple of friends have fibromyalgia. Is LDN a good choice? Yes. Good choice. I mean, is it going to heal everything? No, but it does work well.

Interesting question. C Weezy says, any experience with J 147 dosing? Yes, I would start at 10 milligrams per day. I will not go higher than 20 milligrams to 30 milligrams. If you were doing J one 47 in isolation, do you love J 1 47 for the cognitive benefits? J1 47 is basically like a mitochondrial enhancer specifically. So it helps with ATP in the brain. Um, similar to creatine kind of more of like creatinine enhanced Enhanced creatine version, the brains.

What? Somebody sent me a TikTok saying that creatines. Oh, it's got the nanobots is 10. Well, Maybe it is, but I don't think everything else that's in our world is helping. Anyway, B7333, I actually injected this this morning. B7333 is actually a blood pressure lowering peptide that also is an anti-fibrotic peptides.

And why did I inject it? Cause it was in my refrigerator and I've been using it and just hadn't been used it. And I was like, let me take some of that this morning because I kind of felt like a little bit of water retention. Does it help? I don't know. I know it's more of a blood pressure peptide than anti-fibrotic peptides. Dosing wise, I would start with like 300 to 600 micrograms per day. and i've used that and it has worked really well. probably be talking about that more in the future. It's just one of those ones like no one even knows about it. And there's some research companies selling it, but again, if you don't have high blood pressure, it's like, how do you know if it is working?

We don t really. But I think it could be end up being like a good alternative to like the BPC or something for inflammation because it has some anti-inflammatory properties. Just got glutathione, 1200 milligrams. What do you recommend on dosage? I would do like 100 to 200 milligrams, two to three times per week, is what I do. Also the transdermal glutothione. Pretty good player. Definitely doesn't hurt as much as the injections.

Rusty says, I'm currently on RETTA four milligrams a week and I also take a multivitamin magnesium, Jordian, and taurine. Would it be okay to add LDN at 1.5 milligrams? Absolutely. there would be no redundancy and there will only be benefit in my opinion. Um, for there, Becca says agree love area to 90 amazing results here for nerve damage as well as cognitive benefits and it's anti-inflammatory. There you go. It's just one of those ones like not a lot of people know about, um, but it is a spectacular peptide.

Rusty says, I also have a really bad shoulder and it's been killing for ages. I recently got some BPC. Would taking it subq still help or would I have to pin in the area? I definitely want to pan in that area. Yeah. Subq is not going to hurt, but it is also not gonna give you benefits. Thoughts on Mira Begron for fat loss. This is so funny. There's like a lot of synchronicities in chat today.I recorded a video this week that I'm hopefully going release next week called the non GLP-1 fat-loss agents. It actually talked about Mira begrons in it.

Albuterol is a beta two agonist and mirabegron is beta three aganist. It's actually prescribed for overactive bladder, but it also creates fat loss above and beyond like kind of what albuteral would do. So it's one of those ones, the one drawback is that like when you get into higher doses that work really well for fatloss, it causes tachycardia. And so you have to be careful with like how high you dose it. Um, but it works great. I would say for fat loss, probably like the 50 to 100 milligrams is going to be like, the safe range. People will go up to like 200 milligrams and that's where you can really see like heart rate issues.

Uh, and it worked really well. Again, it's one of those things too. It's like albuterol. You'll get like a few weeks of benefit out of it. And then it was going. To stimulate you. Yeah. So that just what you have to do. More stimulating than albueterole. Um. Potentially. Depending on the dose. On TRT, E2 is 80, SHBG is the same. Do you recommend AI? I've seen different opinions on the AI. I never recommend an AI wit.

Um, I don't think 80 is that high, but if you're 30 pounds overweight, that's likely coming from the fact that you are overweight. Not the facts that your a high aromatizer. And so the less visceral body fat you have on, the higher you're going to aromatize. But again, I wouldn't say 80 is dangerous, but if your SHBG is that high, that's telling me that you'd have too much visceral body that needs to come down because if you had high body, fat the SHPG will go up, which then binds the testosterone and prevents you from having higher free testosterone levels.

And I would not use an AI whatsoever. There are a lot of stops along the way too. Like if take metformin, met formin has aromatase inhibiting properties because it reduces visceral body fat and also the reduction, it reduced the expression of aromatase enzyme in the fat tissue. And so like, for goodness sake, please just take like a thousand milligrams a day of metformin before you take an AI and you might notice the benefit. But then again, It depends on if you have symptoms too.

I've had my estrogen as high as like 130 and I don't have any high estrogen symptoms, you know, and how I like to run around like 60, 70 is where I feel really good. So. Uh, Mallory says, I originally had surgery. I'm taking GHK, TB 500, BPC, carnal acts and PEG-MGF had a histamine reaction. Do you recommend lowering dosing to avoid reaction amongst those things? I would drop the GH K. That's probably what caused it.

And in those cases, when you're having a surgery, the last thing you want to do is like irritate it on top. So sometimes you just can't have the G H K in there. Yeah. Robert says not to get in the weeds. Hey, that's what we do. I go all in weeds by taking HHH at night. Aren't you blunting your natural growth hormone pulse at a night? Yes, you are. And it's similar, albeit a little bit different than if you're taking TRT, aren't we blunting our natural production?

The question is like, do I do the cost or the benefits outweigh the costs. To me, it does. And also too, what's interesting about growth hormone is typically you recover production within like one to two weeks of stopping it, whatever natural production you have. So yes, you would be. But the question is like, I fully realized by taking testosterone that I'm stopping my natural reduction, but the benefit is greater than the cost. Can you take, we talked about that test on MK77. We went over that one. I don't know if it was the same person that asked, Here's a good question.

How do you know when your mitochondria are optimized? What do. You don't, there is this like me screen test that is supposed to test your myocondria, but then you have to have a doctor interpret it for you. So I don' know. I guess that would be a way to. But, um, I think the mitochondrial being optimized is always one of the things like take like red light therapy, for instance. Everyone benefits from red light therapy, babies, old people, young people village people healthy, sick, everyone benefits because it's improving your

mitochondrial health. And so it was like, I think if you feel good, your Mitochondria are probably pretty good. But that doesn't mean they can't be improved and it is something you can always work on. So how do you know, should I take like SS 31 or should take MOTC? I mean, it just kind of a personal preference. How do know? It's a lot harder to test than just doing like blood work for testosterone. Thoughts on glutathione for liver health. I think it's amazing.

Yeah. All right. Let's see. Following up on the SHBG situation, my free tea is only 0.7% of my total tea and SHPG is 76. I've lost 84 pounds over the last year. Am not 6% body fat. Could this be the reason why? Are they saying that I am now 6% body fat and not 6 percent body fit? I don't know.

Now. Okay. I see he's corrected that. Yeah, definitely could. A lot of times when someone loses a lot weight like that, there's a residual cascade to which the SHBG can stay elevated. And so in that case, yes, something like a proviron, obviously boron and zinc, and that can help initially, but that could be warranted in a situation like Carrie, if you just go to library.hunterwilliamshealth.com, it's got all the old videos on there.

What's up? David is in the house this morning. He said, friends started epitalin, only two milligrams a night and having severe diarrhea, now five days straight. Ever seen this? I have never seen that, but if it is causing distress, I would definitely remove it. You definitely could use something like Penelon. They're on Reddit, Tessa and SS31 also. It could also be the SS 31 enhancing the Retta. Maybe the epitalon is enhancing, the retta too. Um, and so there's a lot of play there. So if the Epitalum was the one thing that set him over the edge, I would remove it, assuming that like all those other things are doing well,

but I haven't, don't know why that would happen. I feel like it would happened with SS-31. Yeah, definitely could happen with that. SS31 people get diarrhea from SS, 31 for sure. Cause they're like especially the first time taking it. That's great. I forget about that, but the first time I took, I don't forget. The first I use SS 31, even if I've cycled off, it's like my gone. But I always forget that. You definitely have like a, an autophagy bowel movement. Cause you're like clearing a lot out of the gut.

It's interesting to go back to the mitochondria question. Like how much has improved that mitochondrial? Like we have mitochondrion in our gut and then the guy cleans itself up. Dose of ARE-290 for neuropathy pain, I'd say two to four milligrams per day. Clinical trials use four kilograms per. Just to add about my shoulder, can you pin using a pin with a five millimeter needle or would it have to be insulin's wrench? No, you could use a 5 millimeter on a pen.

That's fine. I like eight millimeter, on the pins, but five is fine too. Ollie says, AOD 9604, currently on three, I use a GH five times a week. TRT 20 milligrams a day on AOT 250 micrograms, two times per day. Is it better to just add more GH to say, four I used and get more A OD for fat loss benefits. If you're responding well to it, so I think four, is kind of the threshold dose. Like you can probably get fat losses, like eight, but the consequences for a lot of people could be worse if you don't build up to that and you are not

like a bodybuilder. Yeah. So I think four I use is kind of like that threshold dose. Like beyond that, you might get like more water retention, but if you're responding one to three and it's working, I personally, am going to say like the GH is going be better than the AOV or fat loss. Oh, wow. We're already at the bottom of the questions. Kelly says, had a tiny mole removed pre-melanoma, could MT1 contribute to that? I admit to liking the sun, Potentially, I've seen Melanitan 2 have more issues with that, at least anecdotally and in literature.

You don't really see it with Melantitan 1 though, so I'm not saying it's not, but I think if anything, Melatitan I think a lot of the skin cancer risk comes from the fact that people are burning. And so it's like the inflammatory response is created after the burn. If we prevent the, burn, I, think, a, lot, of, times, not all the time, but a , lot , of , times that can help with that. I'm not saying it, it s not, and I don't know that it is, , but it seems like Melanotan 2 would have more of an issue with,

that if you're overdosing it than Melantan 1. Um, but again, it's tough cause it was like, again to go back to there's just like so many variables out there to say like which one's causing which. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah, Ali says loved LDN videos started a few weeks ago and loving the improvements already. Thank you, Oli. We appreciate you. Appreciate the support without you guys, we would not be here for sure. Uh, next question and guys will hang out for like 30 more minutes.

If you guys want to keep dropping questions, we're down to the end. We're all just sit and annoy Taylor for 30 minutes for the public good. Yeah. On TRT pellets at end of 90 days, results were test 931, free 41, estradiol 26, T4 1.06, TSH 2.29, LH less than 0.3, FSH less 0,3. Does it seem reasonable? Yeah, that sounds about like someone on testosterone therapy. And again, so like philosophically, I don't like pellet, but if something works for someone, since we have time, i'll tell a story.

So coach Jim Grove, when I played college football at Wakeforce university, told us this story one time. And I think, I can't remember what the situation was, but like people were complaining about the food that we were getting because it wasn't healthy enough. It became like a thing of like, Hey, like we want like cleaner, healthier food. That we weren't getting in the dining hall. and it was brought to his attention. He had us like huddled up one day after practice and he was like. He told us a story because he used to like coach college and high school football in West Virginia, I think.

And he's like, you know, like Bucky Smith or somebody in west Virginia that was on his team. They would have a team meal before the game and they would like a healthy meal. He always ate two bags of Doritos and a Mountain Dew. And he was the best player on their team. And there was one game, he didn't get his Doritos Mountain Dew and he had like his worst game. So he always went back to eating two bags of Dorito's. Like full bags or Dorita's? I think they're like snack sized ones.

Okay. Two little snack size bags with Doritos and a Mountain dew before the game and the one time he. That red dye and sugar. Yeah. The one thing he did have that he played well and they lost or didn' play well. They lost. The moral of the story that he was trying to tell us is like, there are things that you can change like that. But if something works for someone, you don't stop what's working for them. And to go back to pellets is, like philosophically, I would never recommend pellet to anyone.

But is that better than nothing? Like, is this person more metabolically healthy now because their testosterone's higher, their free testosterone is higher. Everything from what they said on their blood work to me looks improved over what it probably was before the pellets. Pellets are better. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying is like, if it works for someone, I've never going to tell anyone, like if something doesn't work for. To not do it. Is there better pregame meal than Doritos and Mountain Dew? Yeah, Were you one of the ones that was complaining about the food and wanting healthier food options?

I had no sway to complain. So I was of the opinion that the food was not healthy enough, but it wouldn't matter what I said. Cause that was a practice. You weren't one of ones that were complaining about it. Not formally, not formally to the powers that be at that time of my life, which were football coaches, uh, at the time, because I would walk on during that phase and like, I could have complained about something and they would have just said, get out of here and go, go back to class or whatever.

So, um, it would evolve to where the point, like when we had a new coaching staff that I did have say, and we did get healthier food, thankfully. Um, but yeah, we would have like chicken tenders or like pizza after practice and stuff. And guys would be like, what is it? How are we going to win games? Like we got to play Florida state this week. Like how are you going win for eating chicken, tendons and pizza on a Tuesday, play on Saturday. But he had a point, he'd been coaching for 40 years at that point. So like, you had point like hey, You got to do what you got do to win.

You know, like sometimes what is going to help someone else win is not going be what helps you win and that's where it comes back to this stuff. But it's like I always. want to have that perspective because it's very easy to get into dogma and like dog is the enemy of progress. You know, like Dogma is what like prevents this. So it was like, do I based on what I know think pellets are good? No, but that's a war for someone. I'm not going to like not gonna fight them at all.

When taking the LDN, do you add it to take every day or can be used like a few times a week? I mean, you definitely could use it a couple of times if you wanted to. I take it every, but shout out from South Carolina. We know that person. People we know are traveling to South Oh, I don't know. Yeah. I was thinking about my parents, but I wouldn't even know how to comment.

They might be watching. Your mom would call you, pick up the phone while you're live streaming. Today's her birthday. So I talked to her before the live stream and she said that they might watch it. And I think you can do this in StreamR, if I just had someone call my phone. And like, would they, was you be able to hear them on the mic? Yeah. If I put this speaker, if I want the speaker out, why don't you call my dad? I'm sure he has a lot to say along all these topics of things. Yeah, um, I've, cause I love the idea of like calling radio and like sometimes I would, it'd be cool to do this.

Um, go to war stack. Aliens are invading superhuman effects. What would you do? Good question. I mean, you got to have testosterone. Yeah. Would that be a case for like trend or halo test? Oh, probably. Like if your aliens are coming, like everything's on the table. Trend, trend, DHT injectable. Because like the trends, it's going to make you irrational where the inject with the HT will make it more rational, but still have like go-go.

Maybe inject it with DHG for a woman. I mean, if they, like I said, If they're here, they are landing on the White House lawn. What are you going to do? They've already landed. Disclosure is there for anyone wants to see it, but, um, They're amongst us. But yeah, it's, I would say testosterone would be like a mandatory, Like have a stock of testosterone, some injectable DHT, throw in an oral, handbar or something like that. Get you aggressive.

Yeah. Maybe some D ball, um, peptide wise, I don't know. There's going to be peptides that are going be like, maybe you'd want like a cognitive pepti to like help you focus. You'd have like LL 37 in case like you get like an infection or something where you want some new peps, some dihexid really like focus strategize about how you're going beat them. It's not sleep some daffodil. Yeah. Makes you think that like for the people that are like fighting wars, like what are they giving them?

TRT clinic recommendations. Nothing officially. If you email me, I can kind of help hook you up. You talk about stacking IPA and test it simultaneously. I think you can do it. Um, that's like the strongest peptide growth hormone stack. If you're using peptides, I wouldn't do. So a lot of people, the one case for that would be like a guy that wants to bulk up. Yeah. They'll get really strong and big. But I. Think women, it might be too much for a.

Lot of women. Or unless you are a woman who's extremely mean and needs to put a, lot. Of body mass on. Oh boy. Did I see somebody's video talking about research peptides, even 99% pure would have 1% LPS and the rest is a big concern. I get frustrated seeing stuff like that and people jumping all over it. Um, I mean, where do I start with something like this? I have no intention of like disparaging anyone.

Upton Sinclair said, Don't try to teach a man something that his income depends on him not understanding. This man's income does not depend on that. Therefore, he has a vested interest in you not doing that to buy his products. Now, is that true? Yes. Just because something is 99% pure doesn't mean that it can't have endotoxins. It could be 95% and not have an endo toxins and be 99%. And still have the end of toxins. Um, but the heart of the message is those are dangerous and you better stay away from them.

And you also better buy them from me because I'm the arbiter and the gatekeeper of what's true. which is, I mean, that's what a lot of people, people in the research peptide world do that. People on the mainstream world through that, um, so if I understand Ali, like, because we're so like where these people do not exist in same. They're up here and we are down here.

And no matter like how many people ever follow me, There's certain things that will always keep us like in a gap between that. And so what I'm telling you is that there's, we're not Kendrick Lamar song. They're Not Like Us. That's what i'll say.

And so why do you think algorithms systematically oppress people like us? Cause we're not the only ones by far. And why did they promote people that say certain things? I'll just leave it at that. Like, understand where the message is coming from. And the best thing to do is just not be on social media. As a consumer, I would be a creator on Social Media. Share what you know, share what your learning.

Interact with people. But don't be the person that's fighting in a comment over that one way or the other. Because that, like when people say negative things to me, i kind of laugh, although it is hurtful. When people saying negative, things I laugh because those people are promoting my content by saying it. Yeah. And when you do, when get sucked into that, like, I don't know what this person says, cause I won't follow him and I know he's going to say, so like why would I just anchor myself and think, why does he have a platform and not me?

How come he gets millions of followers? And I can't even exist on social media. And when you understand the game, then it becomes clear. It's like, Oh, well, this is, they're not like us, you know? And, um, yeah, that's what it is. But to the point, like the thing that funny about this, is like you can't deny that that a factual thing, but it's also contextually. Deceiving like it's contextually deceptive.

Yeah. But it not wrong at the same time. And that's what's people like that are really, really smart at doing, um, is being like factually correct, but contextual deceptions. That's, what sad because, uh, there's a lot of benefits. I don't care where people get peptides from. Like I'm not advertising anyone to buy peptide on this show. No, I, don' care. Where you get them from, Um, doctor research, wherever, you know, Uh, Whenever someone is telling you something, just ask why,

who benefits from that and who benefit from the saying of that. So that's what I'll say. Do you have any thoughts? No, I just don't know how this person still has it, like any form of platform with things that have come out. I think this persons a disgusting human being in my opinion. Well, if you look at the woman side of it that would be. Yeah. Factually accurate, contextually deceptive. You have seven girlfriends like every, like just how much, everything is just a scam.

They're all being run. If let's say, if AG1 offered me $10 million to put a bottle of AG one in this shot right here, I wouldn't do it. No. I guess everyone has a price, but like, dude, AG1, really? Like I think as with like financial literacy, like the world is predicated on people's lack of awareness.

Like if you just looked at the ingredients on that, you'd be like okay, what am I getting here? I'm actually all for like if I could get all of my multivitamins and supplements into like one supplement, I would buy that supplement. But it ain't AG one. Maybe I just like, what I should do is like sit down with my supplement box. Like, What do I all take in this? And like what could be combined together into like a drink powder? Because some of them could, some probably couldn't. But anyway, I didn't even think about that in that, but it's a good point of like The biggest thing that I quote unquote sell is trust with people.

And that's why like, I'm not going to get on here and tell you like where to go buy peptides at anymore. That's what I've not gonna like do those things. Cause the biggest think I can do is get a live stream with the people that care about this stuff and support us and engage with them and actually give them something that like they can walk away with and help themselves. How come people like that don't do live streams where they answer questions? Oh, because they would actually know the answers to any of that. No, they wouldn't know. The answer to the questions. They don' want to, They. Don't want. To engage with the people.

Like of no, cause it's all ego. I think it. But it' also too, like if they open it up for questions, there would be women on saying those things like, Hey, how can we trust you based, based on that? Yeah. Yeah, And I get that like we were public people. So like people are going to say negative things about us, but I will, I'll always do my best, like wherever it is to like be as honest and upfront about like, Hey, there's like that much negative. No, especially like relative because here's the thing that's actually true. Yeah. It's like probably when it's all said and done within a week, like 10,000 people will watch this between the live stream and the recording on Spotify and

YouTube and stuff. And about, let's see, 10 thousand people. Let's say it gets 50 comments. What would that be? I'm doing public math right now. So a thousand would be 10 percent, a hundred would one percent. Fifty comments would 0.5 percent of the people, 0 .5% of people comment. 99% of those are positive and so like such a small fraction of what is negative. And then I think most of the people that are watching are not, they're obviously not going to spend their time watching if they have a negative view of it. Yeah. So what's interesting is like you get to this point where you realize like 99 percent of interactions you have are one sided.

Meaning that like a lot of people consume our content and they're just, we'll never know, never their names, will never what they think about it. Hopefully it's positive. In a lotta cases, it is positive, but that's as a creator, you have to like remind yourself and stay grounded of like, oh, like if I get one negative comment, that such a small fraction, I'm more likely to have someone flip me off going down the road. randomly, then have a person say something negative to my content, which is pretty cool. But I think overall, to go back to it is like, what I sell is trust, meaning like the biggest thing for me, because I'm doing this,

I plan on doing as long as I am here, is to have people trust me. To know that I m not going to say like hey, use this. Like if I use something myself. I'm not going to sit here. There's a reason why we don't talk about certain things. Yeah. Even certain that are in the peptide world that I am more popular. Yep. Right now. So there's. A reason. Why we. Don't use them. And again, I don.t say this is like I.m on some moral high horse or anything. Please. Like I m not perfect. Not a perfect person. Never have been, never will be.

But it is frustrating because it's like, how can you say the one thing that is counter to like what we all know to be true. And then that's what gets the attention. Yeah. Well, who controls who benefits. So anyway, long winded answer. There's a lot more where that came from, as I say. I'm sure I'll hear more about it later. Ever tried ginkgo biloba for cognitive benefits? Yeah, it's good. I don't, I think it was good, this is just a supplement you can get from any store.

C-link and C max are not effective. That's not uncommon. Like C, C Max and say like for a lot of people don' really do anything. Yeah. Oh, try the in a settle amidated versions of those tend to have a little bit better effect. Uh, di hexa is definitely more of like a new tropic that I like to realize. And obviously not a direct neutral pick, but we'll definitely help the brain. This is a good question. How would you go from switching to injection from pellets, slowly introduce injection as pellet dissolving, keep testing.

What I would just do is when you're due to get your pelletes out, the day that you get pellete out like the next day, just start injecting. That's what I will do. Yeah. And you should be good. I don't think, cause like by the time your pallets are basically your metabolism out and then just started a low dose of injection just to kind of ease into it. One to two milligrams, two to three times a week go up as needed. Streaming platform is StreamYard has always treated us well. Yes.

Good protocol for Urolithin-A weekends only. Sure. I think if you're taking like Amatsui or SS-31, I would just do it on the off days. If you are doing things to like stimulate your mitochondria, Uralithine-a would be like a mitochondrial antioxidant. So it's like push the mitochondrion and then use Urolythin A to help repair and like rest and digest the Mitochondria. And so if that's every other day, or if it is If it's, um, on the weekends, that's how I do. And I would do like 500 to a thousand milligrams per day is the dose.

Yeah. Your other day's kind of expensive. It's annoying, but it is good stuff. Have you heard of progressive supra nuclear palsy? I haven't. If you do have any recommendations for peptide therapy, honestly, I wouldn't know. So I'm not going to tell you just cause I don't have about it. I can, would love to read about if you send me more information and see if there's anything I will have an idea of. Here we go. It was called the Pit for a reason when I went to Wake Forest. The Pit was the dining hall. And if you go to the pit, you get the you-know-whats.

That's the name of the Dining Hall in Wake Forrest. Is it because there's nothing else to do in that area? How dare you talk bad about Winston Salem? There's probably people in Winston-Salem watching right now. I just wanted to get you going. Rude. No, the dining hall at Wake Forest is called The Pit. So if you were like, hey, we're going to go eat, let's go to the pit. Yeah. Versus like you go check later. or Shorty's. They actually have a Shorties on campus.

It's definitely nothing like the Shortys in Wake Forest. No, it's just a restaurant because Wake Forrest was originally here where we live. And it was like a model of like, they have like pictures of the old Shortie. Because when Wake forest was at Wake forrest, that was the restaurant to go to. There's still just like hot dogs there. I have hot dogs, I've hamburgers, but I'm like, when I used to do hair, like I use to drink, we'd always get like we were hung over the next day on a Saturday

doing hair. We'd get that at the salon. Disgusting. The different life. Shorty's is like that old school 1950s grill. Yeah. The grill is still probably yellow like orange, like cheese whiz on things like a pink hot dogs. They have beef ones though too there. Yeah, fry baloney sandwiches. It's funny. Cause at Wake Forest and the, it was called Benson when I was there, that's like the student center.

And the the food court Shorty's was like, the nice restaurant. That was the sit down restaurant that you got like waited on at. Then the other ones were like Chick-fil-A, like all the fast food stuff. And then Shorty's was like the sit down and they have like pictures of Shorties and stuff in there. I was, like, you guys don't know what the real show is. Kind of like almost like a, a mall cafeteria. Is that what it kind of looks like? Yeah. Yeah, Like a smaller version of a food court, but then like you know how the mall, they had like TGI Fridays next to the best food ones.

That's what like shorties was. Like, and then they building. And then they came out with a new dining hall when I was there. That was like next to the business school and that was, like, cleaner, nicer food and everything. How was I talking about Wake Forest? How did I get on Wake forest? I know Robert went there, but why was that talking? Oh, we were talking like the meals.

Everything goes back to Wake Force and football. I'm sorry. It's like everything goes back to like when I used to do hair. Yeah, it's just your life experiences. Your life experience is what imprinted you at that age. Definitely not good for the digestion. Aramark cafeteria food. Although like we did our best. Girls in college had PCOS. Yeah. We did. Our best to eat healthy because they would always have like rice and sweet potatoes, like brown rice, and so we potatoes like baked sweet.

Potatoes. And then you can always like go to the grill station where they did like the burgers and they. Would have a like grilled chicken or chicken sandwich. So like that was like a lot of us that like cared about our diet. Where we go like get a couple of pieces of grilled. Chicken and then get like Brown rice. Sweet potatoes and. Then you get some. They call it the Freshman 15. What is the SGLT-2? Speak on this a lot. Shanna, that's basically like Jardine's Farcega. It basically blocks reabsorption of glucose in the kidneys so that your blood sugar never goes too high.

Yeah. Can TRT impact HDL? Mind drop 10 points following 90 days on it. Injectable testosterone? Yes, it definitely can. To bring that up, you could use citrus bergamot. You could do something like a Jardience, obviously GLPs help. Creams will not tend to have that effect, but injections will. But if you manage it properly, there's usually no issue. It is like the people that love to knock injections, they'll say, well, that lowers your HDl, which is true. So I will concede that it does.

Sheena says, I use a diluted bile of TRT. Can I reuse the bile or always new bile? I would use that new one because it's been poked probably so many times. I'll just use it to get a new sterile bile. With desiccated thyroid, what is the dosing protocol timing to start with? One times a day or two times? First thing a.m. and early afternoon, first thing am only. Let's say, uh, AM only. Um, I would not take it later than 12 PM in the afternoon, but I feel like if you're someone who starts your day at like 4 AM,

you might need to break up your dose and do like a dose at 4 am. And then maybe like another dose around like 11 or 12 to get you through, um, the day. But I mean, typically dosing protocol, like most women are going to start off anywhere between if you're starting off new anywhere, between like 30 to 60 milligrams, some women even less, like more like 15 milligrams. Um, and then for men, I would say anywhere. Between 60 to 90. Yeah.

And just kind of go from there. Always start low and go slow. Test for women. What do you recommend for good dose? 52 year old female currently on RETA, SS 31, MOTC, BPC, NTB 500. I would say starting off new to ingestible testosterone and testosterone in general, I'd say start off with anywhere between five to 10 milligrams a week and then see how it is and up the dose within like four weeks.

After starting, most men feel, at that age, feel good in between 10 to 20 milligrams for a weekly total. Less is always more. You can always add. Yeah. Thoughts on bone broth. Protein is a protein source. I love it. And there's some good bone bath, bone, broth, protein powders. They're out there. That tastes really good. Um, but yeah, I. Yeah, that's also a really great way to get more protein. When you're on a GLP and like some bone Roth, it doesn't hurt your stomach. It actually helps. Cause there was glycine.

So it was also like beneficial to even have it like at night before bed, especially like, um, if you were someone like you have to. get a lot of calories in, in order to like, some people like don't sleep well if they don' have a lotta calories and at night. Um, so doing like some bone broth with a little bit of grass-fed butter at nigh just to get some more of that fat in is really beneficial too. Currently healing from several herniated disc in the neck, peptide sac to use. I would say clo plus cartilax plus you do PEG-NGF and ARE-290.

That would be like the kitchen sink. Yeah. Yeah, I thought, Ollie says a lot very similar. They will always have that authority in theory. I have a celebrity client with 8 million followers trying to keep pushing to you guys for pet pet stuff. That's awesome. We appreciate that. Thanks for the support and love. And ultimately too, like to me, this is sounds, it sounds very, uh, virtue signaling and also like people wouldn't think that people that create content don't want millions of followers. However, I really mean this.

I love so much what I do. There's this guy named Kevin Kelly that was the editor for Wired Magazine. And there's an old article that everyone in the online business always goes back to that he wrote years ago called A Thousand True Fans. He's like, if you get a thousand true fans, you will always have a business and you could use the internet to do that. And I love what I do so much because one, it's like, I actually like appreciate like not having more followers because like I said, like no money, no problems. Like that always like brings more problems now. Do I want the message for and wide?

Of course. But like. I loved what. Because to me, It's. The highest realized version of like what? I get to do is like how I wanted to. Yeah. Because like when I started doing this, like I would see how everyone else did stuff. I was like, I'm, that's not me. Like, um, not like that personality wise. And I just was, you know what, what I feel called to do and do it in the way. and I ended up, if you're consistent enough, You attract the right people to you.

And, um, of course it's always nicer, like to have more followers, make more money and all that stuff. But it also too, it was like, at what cost does that come? Well, I think you lose like perspective on like what, what is really your goal? Is your go to really just like make money or is it really to like help the world? Yeah. And if it's like, you always go back to the North star is like what are we working on to do? Like my goal when I started to all this stuff, like when, when it was in my early twenties, I really got clear on like it wasn't,

what I wanted to deal with my life is I want to make the world a healthier, more prosperous place. If what i'm doing goes back that I'm in the right place and I know that will evolve and change. Yeah, there's things in our life change, hopefully as we have kids like evolve, and like grow into like other roles and stuff. Um, it always goes to that. Like that's why I am here and that is what gets me excited and out of bed in And every day, like even like through some stuff can be really stressful. Like I'm so grateful of like, wow, I really get to do this. Yeah. I get. To do. This in a way and be like outrageously boring in.

A way that like helps people because like I want to be outrageus ly boring. I was talking about this and I would love to hear people's thoughts on this if they leave a comment or the chat or whatever. Like I actually have some notes prepared to do like an entire anthology of like insulin to GLPs of a three hour podcast of the history of, like, the formation of insulin, to where it led to with GLP's. And I know like, that's not like the peptide protocol video of like hey, do this, take this. But I think like contextually, it helps people understand like how did we get here today? Yeah.

With GLPs and like why are GLP's relevant today is because we had this like build up of the story of insulin being the first peptides synthesized and discovered to like where it led to. And there's like this story behind this I would love to be able to put that into content to do and have it like a long format to where we was like really digestible and very well researched and stuff. And like that excites me. You know, it doesn't excite me taking a topic that I know we'll get a bunch of people to fight in the comments about and make a 60 second video about it to get. A bunch have used to hopefully drive them back to a research chemical company, you know?

Like that doesn' excited me because it's like, while that can be beneficial to justify an existence and money, like what did that really do? Cause it was like here a day and gone tomorrow, versus that. So anyway, I'm going off the rails this morning, but those are my thoughts. She says they're not like us. I'm never going to hear this song without thinking of you two now on biohack world. Yeah. Some people really have like no idea what I've talked about. They don't know rap music, but, um, Kendrick Lamar, they're not like us.

Think about that. I'll play that for you after. Great. Kendra Lamarr is basically saying like the rest of the rap world, like he's got like his posse. Cause like Kendrick Lamarre in the wrap world. And I'm like aficionado of rap music, but I grew up on rap. Music. Like electronic music and I like rock music. But I always like rap I know. I mean, it's like, I like football, you know, like I'll never not like Football, never. Not like rap music. It's not what I listen to every day. Yeah. But, um, Kendrick Lamar is like this like lyrical genius, really smart, but he's also like not part of the establishment.

Like he has a beef with Drake because Drake is Disney and Kendra Lamarr is the underground, and he is, that's what he was saying. They're not us. They're the ones that like want all this of like the, the status, uh, establishment endorsement and Kendrick Lamar. I mean, I guess you would also say they're mainstream at this point, you know? So it's like, who's really underground, but that's what that song is about. Yeah. Of like. You know, like You know, it's funny though, the NC state game this year, like the football, they kept playing the Kendrick Lamar song where,

cause like Bill Belichick dates like a 24 year old and he's like 70 something. And he was like, and I'm one of the Kindred Lamarr songs. He's talking about like he says like talking to Drake, we'll probably strike a chord and it was probably a minor, get it like. A minor like oh. Oh yeah, yeah. Because I guess Drake got accused of like young girls and they kept playing that at the NC State game versus UNC because like he's dating like a girl like 50 years younger than him. So anyway, to go back to like subliminal messaging and stuff.

Would you like compare him to, like, the knock-o and medicine for the people of, my music? Is that what you're comparing them? Yeah, he would probably be like that. Like that? Okay. They would say that they're like, I mean, they were like us, like they are the outcast mainstream. Yeah. Kind of like Aaron Rogers, not go like Erin Rogers. Like very establishment, whether you love them, hate them. He's like very like against the media, doesn't like to talk to the, to do his own thing. So yeah. They've actually done podcasts together.

Yeah. Yeah, all the famous people seem to not like peptides until their telemedicine company comes out and can sell them to you directly to your door. Then they're all going to love them. It's kind of funny. Thank you, Alexis. We love you too, we love all the people and obviously you guys and then obviously all of the other people in the community. Yes, thank you. And I hate like saying like, I don't want to say that from like a virtue signaling standpoint because I know there's like people that we don' do a good service for and like that's fine. So.

You need to give yourself more credit. I think you get like a little paranoid because there's so many narcissistic people out there in this industry and I. Think you worry about that and like you're not, you know, not doing that. Yeah, I just don't want to. Guess what bothers me is virtue cycling, so I never want What do I think about KiloHeart, Cardiogen, Mozi, and Telmasartan to remodel the heart to a healthy state? Absolutely wonderful. KeloHearts is going to be the oral bioregulator, cardiogen the injectable one, mozi as well.

I would add in SS31 to that as Those are all great, but I think SS31 and MOTC together, potentially very beneficial to cardiac tissue. Another thing not to leave out too, thymus and beta-4, the full length sequence of thimus beta 4, not TB 500, although you'd probably get some benefits from TB500. You get the fully length thymosin beta four, that works really well to help with heart tissue being anti-fibrotic to heart tissues, everything. Good question here to shamelessly plug our Axiom community.

Yes, on the group calls, we record those every Thursday night. So the Thursday nights at 8 p.m. Eastern, obviously if you're in the UK, that's like six hours ahead of time. You know, it's tough because like sometimes I think about the international people in our group. Like if we did a call like one in afternoon, they would be able to come on. But then it is like if also people United States, if they're at work at that time, you probably have less people Because there's more people in the United States. Yeah, we'd have less people to be able to come on. I know some people would still come. But it's just tough to have like one time for everyone.

That's yeah, it'd be really hard for our co-hosts to do that, too. Um, but yes, we do have recordings and I actually, the recordings are in the group themself and, uh, The group itself. And we actually I set up a website that I also host all the recording on. So you can like look at them instead of having to like scroll through the feed of a group where they're posted. I Actually have a web site to, like, where you could just read, see them all at once. and i also have all of the slides and also to shameless plug for anyone that wants my slide decks, I post all my slides decks from The group calls,

but also my YouTube calls that you can download if you're in the group. Um, do you have an opinion? I am eight powder from Beckham. Just been seeing ads. I don't, I didn't know anything about it, but I did see a video, uh, of the guy from IM eight talking about how he ran ads to scale his company. It's just like some longevity supplement, kind of probably like a G one. Uh, he was like on a podcast talking. How he scaled his ads up to make a hundred million dollars in 12 months.

So I dunno if it works or maybe it may work. Could be great. Yes. Somebody beat me to it. TB4 and then FRAG 1-4 for heart remodeling. I heard of a product called Hemothin. Does it work for anabolic support, lower hematocrit? I haven't. Although you could use something like natokinase for that to help with higher hematoacrit, especially in the presence of anabolics. But I don't, I'll try to look it up or if you can send it to me, check it out. Yep. Simo's, Bell Brothers, quality college restaurants.

Putters too. Robert will know about putters. Jeff says, when using multiple peptides a day, should you space out the time between taking each peptide or can you do a few peptids at the same time? It's definitely okay to do if you at same. Just make sure they're ones that are not like all in the syringe, if they don't belong in there together. Thank you, Sponge. We do our best to just be honest and treat people right and, treat someone like you would if, they were in your house, you know?

What's your favorite bone broth protein powder brand from Christie? Great friend of the show. Not use a bone, broth, protein, powder. I think ancient nutrition has a pretty good one that I've used. Haven't had in a while. No, I usually just. Just drink the bone. Broth. Yeah. Or just get like, um, one of ones like kettle and fire or. There used to be these, remember those bone bra powder sticks? You, you have them. My never. Oh, they're pretty. Good.

What I used to do is like take boiled eggs, like mix it in with the boiled egg. It's pretty good. Yeah. Yes. Integrity. Make everyone integrous again. Uh, yeah. Ollie says, interesting. yes. Dan Carlin style. That's what I was actually thinking is, do if Dan Carlins podcast met peptides. Like that's the direction I want to go in. He had a show called Hardcore History that he would do. Remember I was talking about the other day in my infinite blabbering of like, how cool would it be to have like Dan Carlin's podcast style or peptides?

Because he'll do like four hour long episodes of stuff. They're like very deep and he tells a story of historical events. Um, sponge says I'm 60 and a hundred percent turn my life around the last year. Two heart attacks. One was a widow maker, fired my doc and resolved my type two on my own in 18 months. Wow. It's amazing. Yeah. And that's just like what, when people decide to take fate into their own hands, what can be done?

Yeah. That's the thing too is, um, it's tough to have like the perfect time for everyone, but if you can ask questions before the call. So what we actually do, that's a good point. Taylor will post the topic of the called the day before this is in our life, like, and this isn't our private group that you have to pay to be in, she'll post a topic. And then on the comments, we'll take questions. If someone's not, if once we get through all the live calls with the life questions on We'll go through that and answer the questions and then it will be in the recording. And then obviously too, a lot of people just pay to be there, not to even like interact, but just because they can message me.

Yeah. So if you want to privately message to me to like make sure that you get your question answered, we can do that. I would say most people that like want do a call with me, they don't realize. I mean, I know some cases they might need a call. Like a lot of times they can just ask me in a private message and I'll respond with like a pretty good in-depth answer. And so a lotta times like people that think they need to call in, in lot cases, they just needed to ask a couple of questions to kind of figure it out. So. I figure a peel attacks and SS31 would help the kidneys, but do you have any other suggestions while on cycle?

For an anabolic cycle, those would be pretty good. And then I think even for an antibiotic cycle and SGLT2 for someone that's like doing a higher doses of gear could be beneficial. In those cases, I don't think it's going to be, it is not going like keep you from putting size on at all. It's just make you work better. Yeah. Bone broth, get from beef bones from a local farm that sells raw milk, eggs, et cetera, and make it home. Kind of have to buy the raw, milk like you do the peptides, not for human consumption. Yeah, it's for the dogs. It's crazy. But anyway.

Well, that's it. We've been going out for two hours now and we got through most of the questions. So thank you guys. It was a wonderful show this morning. I know we went like down the rabbit hole and off the rails a little bit. But yeah, it's what we do. so I guess we'll have a reader mail back coming up this week and then we will be back in two weeks. Next weekend is actually our one year anniversary. Yeah. Um, which is pretty cool.

Yeah. Pretty cool also on mother's day. At least it won't always be on Mother's Day because Mother day is always that Sunday, but like our anniversary will move the day next year on Monday. The next will be Tuesday. So it's not always going to be May is a very expensive month for Hunter. He did not mothers day, Taylor's birthday countdown to Taylor birthday begins Sunday and May 1st. Today's Taylor's birthday. Shout out Taylor mom or Taylor. Today is today. So as our wedding anniversary, mother's day and my birthday, all in May.

You will be in Mexico on your birthday much to your dismay. It could be worse places. We're actually going to be speaking at- We'll be working. Yeah, I'm going be- The last three years we have been working- On our birthday. On my birthday, which is- But then it all makes up because then we'll go on vacation on my Birthday. Every, the last few years, we've been in Europe on Vacation for your birthday and you don't even care. care about. I know that's the funny thing is like, I'm not, oh yeah, forgot my brother Blake's birthday is one week from today on May 9th.

My mom was reminding me of that. So yeah. But yeah so it's funny cause like I am not as big like I would work on my birthday. Cause I was just like, I want to celebrate it, but it's not like more. I don't care as much about the day that it was on. Like if it wasn't like a Wednesday of that, Hey, let's just celebrate on Saturday. Where's like Taylor wants to celebrated on the date. That's very important. Her I've come to realize. So fair enough.

Um, last question, Jacqueline, Brenda's show says, could read to be causing bloating since I switched from terms of red. I wake up bloated. Um I think potentially if it's slowing gastric emptying and your food is not digesting, um, as much definitely could. Yeah. But, uh, you know, I would say like you might need like more fiber and magnesium to help like get things moving. A prebiotic could be helpful to there. Some good probiotics, maybe some yogurt probiotic.

So anyway, all right. Thank you guys. We're going to go ahead and shut it down. Uh, we've been rambling long enough, so thank you, guys, love each and every one of you. Um, Like we said, best place. Make sure you're on the email list. I didn't talk about that just with censorship and everything. Maybe we talked about some stuff today that will get us kicked off. Hopefully not. But I'll make sure on email lists and then our private groups actually on collective that'll be there. And then if you want to check out my old videos, I did get that up. So library.hunterwilliamshealth.com And we'll see you next time. We'll be back two weeks from today.

I guess that'll will be the 16th. Yeah, 16 of May, we will back. And then make sure you're submitting the questions to the question box and we use those for the reader mailbox. So I know we've got some good ones coming up for that next week. All right. Have a fantastic weekend and We will see next. Bye guys. Peace.