Saturday Morning Coffee Talk · 10/25/25

0:04 Hello everyone, good morning. I think we are live. If someone in the chat could let me know if you guys hear me okay. And I promise Taylor will be here we actually. We actually just had a person that had to deliver something for our house and they just happened to show up. So that's why we're running a little bit late. We also had some tech difficulties with the microphone, but I think it's working now.

0:39 Hopefully you can hear me and see me. Okay. Awesome. Sloop dog. That's an awesome name. Sleep dog three 32. All right. Looks like we are. live and rolling strong. Taylor should be up in a second. But like I said, there was somebody had to drop something in our house for a delivery and they happened to come right at the same time. So good morning everyone. Oh, here's Taylor.

1:09 let her show her face. Hopefully also to let us know if the microphone works, because we had a pair of mics, but then the mics would not connect when I plugged them into the computer. They were connecting to the receiver, But they weren't connecting the to computer for whatever reason. Good morning, everyone. Let me know, can someone put in the chat if they can hear me. If the mic is picking up on both of us.

1:46 Probably lag too. Yeah. Okay. You had, I said, sounds good. All right. Good morning. Well, it's been a while. I think actually when I was looking, when was scheduling it, It was three months ago that we did our last one. So it's been a long time. Obviously my YouTube channel has been terminated since then, but luckily we have yours and then we X too.

2:20 And I know there's some people watching on X. So thank you guys. If you're watching X, yeah, I actually am not with my youtube channel. There is from people I've talked to a slight possibility. I will get it back still. Is the chair too close? It's fine. There you go. Thank you. The YouTube channel may come back, so we'll see.

2:51 What happens with that? I don't want to rule it out yet. And that's why I haven't made a new one yet, because I didn't wanna make a one if there's still a possibility I can get the old one back. So it's probably a 50-50 chance, whether I get it back or not. But anyway, luckily we have Taylor's to be able to do this and still have a platform to you guys. I'll just start by saying, please make sure you're either signed up for my email list or Taylor email lists or both. We do our best job to actually send informative emails that are not super salesy, that or not just spamming you guys that like actually, a lot of times it's just summaries or videos, or a lotta times what I do is I write ideas for videos that I'm going to be filming.

3:27 And so... Yeah, I would just say make sure you're on the email list, because it appears, and this is kind of what we wanted to start with this morning. I promise we'll get to the questions. Please just keep putting your questions in the chat. It appears the censorship on social media is continuing to ratchet up or tighten down, however you want to phrase it. And our Instagram accounts now appear to be at risk, or we've gotten flagged for a bunch of stuff on Instagram. So I don't know if it's, it probably people like mass reporting us on there, which is sad, but it is what it But anyway,

4:07 just make sure you're on the email list because that's where, again, if all of our social channels get deleted, that where we have to, it's like the only connection that we actually own with our audience because the social channel get to delete us. And X doesn't seem to really care about what we say, but also, too, we just don't have that many followers. I know there's a good community of people on X and even people watching this morning. So they're pretty cool, but it's also hard to, for what we do, like categorically when we publish content, YouTube's really good because it allows us to

4:41 organize things in a library style fashion. Whereas X is more of a feed style, fashion, same thing with Instagram. And so like, if you want to Google or search like Taylor Reed or Taylor Williams, cause that's her name now, Taylor William's testosterone, it is hard to find on like a feed style platform versus like YouTube is a library. So you can like go through the categories and libraries of videos that she has on there on her account or whatever. Point being is just like, we don't know what's going to happen with all the social media stuff.

5:11 And ultimately, you know, where to continue to do what we do. It's just a matter of like the means that we have to get it out and the email list the best way to that. That being said, it's so good to be back. Yeah. and be doing a live and. Be able to answer your questions, so hopefully you guys brought some good questions this morning. We're excited. Hopefully you. Guys are too. Do you have any other thoughts before we just start rolling through the questions? No, I'm just happy to be back doing this and it's just nice and one of the you know we travel we've been traveling a lot the past.

5:47 Honestly, this year we have been travelling a especially as fall rolls around and all the leaves are changing. And yeah, I'd say probably both of our favorite seasons are fall. Yeah. Fall is definitely both our favorites. Probably for different reasons. Definitely different. I like it more for domestic house, decor, cooking. Um, yeah. Uh, not being able to lay out by the pool. That's yeah I do like being in the sun.

6:19 So that's the only thing I don't like when it gets colder. But fortunately, it's not super cool where we're at yet. I like it. Like the change of weather, I liked the scenery, especially where you live. And then also I love that it is football season and especially with family members and stuff that I still get to vicariously live through them through their football careers, which is fun too. Actually, one topic is what I'm doing right now, Which I feel like are this is like Old news, I feel like for the people that follow us,

6:50 but like nicotine is like going viral right now. Really? Yes. I've been getting a lot of, not so much from our followers or maybe more newer people getting into the biohacking space, But like, nicotin is the hot topic right. Kind of like remember when methylene blue was like the Hot Topic. Everybody was talking about methyline blue. Now everybody is talking. The methylenine blue chatter seems to have quieted down. Yeah. I'm not against methylene blue. I not like the hugest proponent of it.

7:23 It can do good things, but I don't think relative to like some of the things that we talk about that is this powerful. For people that are in more of like a normal supplement realm, methylenine blue does a lot of good thing. But if you understand peptides, you use peptide. People, I think, especially like people on this call will say, yeah, like methyline blue compared to a red true tide for like what it will do for your overall health and longevity is not even close. But yeah, nicotine, obviously, too. That's actually a good point. I would probably be a cool deep dive video to do like As if I need another thing to get my content like, you know, put at risk of being deleted or whatever.

8:02 Cause I know that's a thing like the health benefits of nicotine. Because there are many and it's weird because for so many years, cigarette companies, obviously we live on tobacco road, in North Carolina. I grew up, I literally grew my house was in a tobacco field and like For years, cigarette companies were always like, there's no risk of cigarettes. There's a risk for cigarettes and then the pendulum swung back to like cigarette company's evil. And, you know, like that's obviously a different conversation.

8:33 But it's funny because we associate nicotine with tobacco use when really it is like two separate things. Because you can't say like everything in a cigarette is just the nicotine. And so it's like saying people that eat red meat get cancer more often. It's, like, that's not, I can't say that, you know, yeah, good. But it just like correlation versus causation. I think it is very similar to nicotin versus tobacco versus the chemicals in tobacco, versus pesticides that spread on tobacco.

9:03 Versus the heavy metals that come from vaping and whether you're vapin, tobacco or nicotein or whatever. So anyway, it would be cool to do a deep dive video, and that would a fun idea for more research to go deep on. nicotine health benefits, because I do think there is a health benefit to nicotin in isolation away from tobacco and whatnot. You know, what's interesting about nicatine is that I don't feel like it has super addictive qualities in the quantity that i would use,

9:39 which is like a nicotein gum of two milligrams. Yeah. Like if, honestly, if I do, ff, If I chew two pieces of nicotine gum, it makes me sick. And I think the average cigarette has like 10 to 12 milligrams of Nicotine. Now I know you're smoking it versus chewing it. So they're probably, probably feels a little bit different, but I don't like, to be honest, coffee to me is, and I'm not addicted to coffee. I have a cup or two every day, usually not more than one cup.

10:12 I already had one cup this morning when we got up earlier. And so this is my second cup. But to me, coffee is more habit forming and addictive than nicotine. To me nicotin is just like, Oh, it's kind of like nice to have. It's kinda like a breath man. Like, oh, that's nice. versus, but I think a lot of people, I've talked to people that you have to chew like 24 pieces of nicotine gum a day. Yeah. So I don't think for me what I, don' t use it every day, bu like I ideally to use i like either like when I'm doing live,

10:43 like doing the live stream or doing th live call for the group, or if I' m about to film a video like, o if i'm editing videos, vide editing, i will use t when i m video editing. I just like it because I feel like i helps my mind get a little bit sharper but i don t get the, the stimulant and jitter feeling from the caffeine. Yeah. Um, cause it really, but I don't mean, I really don' like having more than one cup of coffee, which typically our coffee. My coffee has usually two shots of espresso in it.

11:17 So I like to use a nicotine more for like, um, just to help with like cognitive, like just mental cognitive benefits, That's good. That is why the old writer thing was like cigarettes and coffee because nicotine and caffeine together makes you, you know, focus on cognitively demanding tasks. Yeah. Alrighty. Let's do some questions because it's been too long and I'm sure you guys have plenty of questions. Yes. Jim from Chicago. What's up, bro? I hope you are well.

11:48 His first question is with all the talk on SLU. Oh boy. We're launching. with a hot topic. This is actually, I think it's appropriate because I haven't talked about this yet. Here's what I thing. First of all, and let me organize my thought train here in regards to SLU. I don't think anyone should start with high dose SL U.

12:18 Meaning if you have never used the product before, My best advice, and I can't tell anyone what to do, nor should you ever do what I say, my best advise would be not to use the high dose. I would start at 100 to 200 micrograms if you have never used it before. Now, you might not feel anything at that.

12:48 And what I would do is introduce the body to it, get accustomed to. You might feel something. And if you do after four to six weeks, you might notice the effects starting to wear off. From there, You can begin to experiment with moving up to higher doses as the. Body becomes accustomed. However, here is my reservation around the higher. Doses one Taylor. I've both tried higher dosage ranging from 100 milligrams to 400 milligrams.

13:19 I didn't like have any immediate health problems. However, after about seven to 10 days, you begin to experience a wired, tired feeling, meaning that you feel wired but you're also tired at the same time. And that continues to compound over time, the longer that you do it. Therefore, I stopped taking it, not because the fat loss results weren't good, but because I didn't feel good.

13:50 And my resting heart rate continued to climb over Time, which to me was an in my HRV continued, to go down over, time which, me, was, an indicator that it was not good However, if someone wants to get in shape really fast within like a week or two, you could do that. Now, why does that wire tired feeling happen? It happens because if you think about SLU enhancing ATP production in the body, There is an oxidative cost to that enhancement,

14:28 meaning that if you continue to pump out more and more ATP, think of the exhaust coming off of your car. You're blowing and blowing more exhaust, which in the short term is good because what's going to happen, you're going increase energy, burn more fat, have more energy and feel good. If you are doing that though, and the exhaust starts to build up, think of like the exhausted in your garage, if you turned on the car and revved up the engine in the garage and there was all this exhaust in garage.

14:59 Eventually you're going to suffocate to death. And that's what is happening. I'm not saying you gonna suffocating death from the high dose fluid. But what's happening is there's this buildup of ROS in body and that starts have bad effects over time. And based on what I have seen from talking personally with people that have using it, they feel very similar. So what is the alternative? I think you can use it in short cycles. If you want to do high dosing, I don't necessarily see a problem with that if you've accustomed the body to getting there.

15:35 However, I'm not gonna sit here and tell people that you're gonna feel good over time because I didn't, Taylor didn' and other people haven't. So that is my thoughts. Again, do what you will. Like people are gonna do it and that's totally fine. And again, I will always pretty much like with every drug or substance or whatever, probably say there's a use case for most stuff. I think there is a used case that. But it's not going to be mine and it is not be me long term.

16:05 Practically speaking as well, and again, this is just my personal experience, so this not gonna be everyone's personal experiences, the fat loss benefits are higher at the higher doses. That is undeniable. The practical performance enhancements benefits for me at 400 milligrams per day were equivalent to about one to two milligrams a day in terms of the performance enhancement effects. Meaning that the way I felt during cardio and training was about the same.

16:36 It was just that the fat loss was much greater at the higher dose. Does that make sense? So what I'm saying is that like, practically, if you're using it for performance enhancement, I don't know that you would necessarily benefit from the high dose any more than you benefit less because you're going to have this cascade of oxidative stress that builds up in the body. Yeah. And I will say this, if you are going do the high dose sloop, you bet your bottom dollar, You've got to be injecting glutathione.

17:06 You have got be taking carbon 60. you've gotta be like taking urolithin and you have to massively increase the amount of antioxidant therapy you doing to the So the answer is there's no right answer. I'm giving you my experience. People are going to go buy high dose loop and take high-dose loop. I am telling you to be very careful with it because there are gonna be a cascade of effects that we've experienced and I've talked to other people that

17:40 have experienced the same thing and you have to like weigh the cost of what you're gonna do. And again, like I have heard really bad things about it, I heard people say good things. So you guys are going to do what are you going do, the best thing I can do is just give you my experience and then the experiences that I gather from other based on what they've told me, but two very important guidelines around that, do not start with a high dose ever, like get accustomed to the lower doses,

18:11 because almost everyone does perfectly fine at the low doses. Almost everyone, some people do bad, they get racing heart rate at low-doses. But start at a low dose, accustomed the body to those lower- doses and then if you wanna go there, you can do the high- dose. But I don't think it's something that I personally would not do the high dose for more than like four to six weeks at a time. Based on what I've seen. And Taylor, I'll let Taylor talk that. I'm just been rambling, but I will let you talk about her experience with it.

18:45 Yeah. Everybody that follows me and follows my emails, have not been lifting for the last 30 days because of dealing with some foot issues. So I used it and to see like how that will help me during this phase of not lifting. And I would say the first two weeks, it was great because I did feel more vascular. Um, I, again, appetite increase, and especially for women, this is going to be crucial, especially women. Cause most of the time women do not want to appetite increased because most women are in the phase that they want loose fat.

19:22 If you're wanting to lose fat and you are trying to suppress your appetite, taking sloop in general is not going to be beneficial because it's going increase your app. You're going get a heavier appetite increase when you use the high doses. I would say the first two weeks felt fine and then moving forward using it up to six weeks By like week four, I noticed like the slow feeling of aggression starting because of the burnout feeling that happens with it.

19:53 And I just felt like, the point where you just feel like you're burning the fuse, and that's even still using SS 31, injectable glutathione, Urolithin A, using all of things to help with antioxidant. You're gonna have a, that just what happened to me. Not saying everybody's gonna happen to it, you have higher risk of that. happening. And some of the feedback that I've gotten from people using it is that also, what kind of training are you doing?

20:24 Because the people that have talked to you that are going to be more endurance athletes, a lot of people I talk to that a big CrossFit people, it has been a super big negative effect on them. It's been negative. Yes. Well, I mean, they're inducing a lot of already stress on top of that. So, but it's also, there's still a ton of people that follow us up to those things. Like also that, you know, it is going to make a difference.

20:55 But the aggression feeling I felt with it, not great. I just, more isn't always better. Some people can handle more, just because, let's take like more GLPs aren't necessarily always better. You might get a great effect at one milligram of Retatrutide. Doesn't mean you need to take the full six milligrams. How dare you? One milligram is absolutely nothing. I know we're not going to, not trying to get into that right now, but more isn't always.

21:28 what I'm saying and if you are doing it you need to make sure that like you have all of the other things dialed in that hunter was saying with the antioxidants and even still I would say like let's just say you're someone who's used sloop and you've cycled off of it for like a couple months and want to now try the high dosing I still would slowly introduce it back and I wouldn't go immediately in and do the Yeah. I'm not someone when I talk about like the resting heart rate and HRB, I not, someone that lives and dies by that.

22:02 Not someone who ships at the altar of my or a ring or anything along those lines. However, to me, those are data guidelines, meaning that I use those as an indicator. And what I started to see in myself, like, okay, my resting, heart, rate keeps going on. My HRV keeps. Going down. that's a signal that something is stressing out the body. And when I control for single variables, that was the single variable. Again, it felt good in the first week or two, but after that it's definitely started to have like that cascade of ROS buildup that does not feel good.

22:37 Meaning that the use case would be like, okay, can I use this? Yes. But it needs to be for a very specific reason and very specifically purpose. Otherwise I would just keep the dose lower. So if the products are out there, do what that will, but that is kind of my... That's, I think I covered everything around it, because I know a lot of people have been asking me about it. I obviously don't have a YouTube channel anymore. No, you covered it all. We don' t know either. And when we talk about extrapolating dosing, there's just a lots of variables there, and I'll leave it at that.

23:10 So when you extrapolate dosings, we don t really know because it hasn't been studied in humans so far, other than muscle biopsy tests on humans. That's kind of is what it is, but we'll keep moving along. Yeah, that was a long-winded question. Hopefully that helpful to people. I'm rolling, so guys, just a reminder, like when the comments, they come in periodically. So like, when we go through, we have to go though, but it doesn't always come into like you may say something, We might not see it.

23:40 We'll probably see yet, But it does not always like come and sequentially as opposed to like how you are viewing it on YouTube. And then there's also people on X watching too. If you're on x, you don't see the ones on youtube. You're from youtube vice versa. Next question. Savannah Banana says, I've been trying to avoid mixing peptides with it's way too tedious job, all these separately. Is there any data which proves that mixing KPV, BPC, and TB 500 does not cause interactions? No, there's not any date that shows it does, or there is not data that it shows that doesn't.

24:11 My rule of thumb is that if you mix something to, again, this is like, understand I'm not talking about published literature. I don't have three letters after my name. Just a dude on the internet. When you mix things together and you get a cloudy reaction among those, that typically means the peptides have denatured. In my experience, I mix BPC, KPV, and TB 500 all the time to great effect. I've used peptide long enough to know when I add one of those in, what the effect it's having on me outside.

24:44 So if I add KPB to BPC and TB 500, I know what to look for in terms of the response pattern over those. Now, the doctors or the chemists out there will say, well, that's not scientific. Totally fair. I will grant them that point. However, I have done that to good effect, but there are peptides that you cannot mix together. I would never mix a GLP with a growth hormone peptide. And if you do, it's probably going to get cloudy. But there peptids that chemically speaking, when you lyophilize them together and then get them tested, that it shows they are stable.

25:23 And that's a fact. So I don't have a published PubMed study on that. But I would say that there are peptides that you can do that with. And there's not evidence around those specific peptide, but there is evidence that can lyophilize and synthesize a mixed peptid together and they stay stable. Until someone commissions a large published study, which is not happening anytime soon, There's not going to be any data that we have on that.

25:54 But again, if you don't feel comfortable mixing those peptides and you trust people that say that people like us are lying, then that's totally cool. I'm not against that, but that you just kind of have to do. And again, this is not, I'm not saying this isn't a published study, but if you mix peptides together and they get cloudy, most likely they're not working together. But if they are lyophilized together, in most cases, they will be stable and you should be fine injecting them.

26:32 All right, thank you to everyone with the support. We love you guys too. It's good to be back. This is one of the favorite things that we get to do. Michael says, question, what can you do for ulcerative colitis? I'm on a biologic prednisone now, but need to get them to try for a baby or Michelle, sorry. I read that wrong. Ulcer of colias. One, I would just use oral BPC and KPV. That's going to be one of the best bang for your buck in terms of what you're yielding a return from.

27:07 I will also say that injectable Bpc and Kpv and even TB 500 on top of oral would work as well. Metformin will help a lot to suppressing systemic inflammation and inflammation in the gut and helping with bacteria in I had a client had ultra, um, had colitis really bad and GL, uh, she started taking semi-glutide actually. Yeah. And it cleared, cleared it out for her. In fact, a microdose of a GLP actually works wonders, especially because if you have ulcerative colitus, you probably don't want nausea or constipation

27:46 or diarrhea from a glp. But if we were to use a microtose, say, 100 to 200 micrograms a couple times a week, that actually has pretty good benefits when we talk about healing inflammation without having the side effects of that. So a microdose for GLP would also be wonders for that too. BPC, KPV, TB 500 oral plus injected micro dose of a GLPs. And I would say like after four to six weeks, you're definitely going to notice obviously diet and lifestyle come into that Jim says,

28:21 after 18 months of two to three, I use of HGH, came off for a month or so and switched it up around for bed. I noticed my sleep was good on HH, but great on Empo, any thoughts why? Yes, that's a very good point. And it's also why we mentioned that it could be beneficial to add in peptides alongside of growth hormone. Basically, Jim, depending on our age, and I can't remember off the top of my head how old you are, we've talked before, We rely on our pituitary to produce

28:52 growth hormone that gets converted in IGF. And then that has all of these benefits like better sleep. When we look at HDH, we're using it exogenously. Typically the older someone is, the better they respond to HGH over peptides. However, if we make the analogy to testosterone, and again, two different things, but I like to use this analogy. We use exogenous testosterone. That shuts down the quote unquote natural production. The pituitary stops producing LH and FSH, which then leads to the testes to produce testosterone A lot of guys, for fertility or just for how they feel,

29:26 will use HCG to stimulate the pituitary to create LH and FSH to then synthesize testosterone in the testes and help with spermatogenesis. And a host of other reasons they may do it if they felt better doing it that way. Growth hormone and peptides can kind of be lumped into the same school of thought. Meaning that if I'm taking growth hormone, but I take a growth hormone peptide like ipamrelin at night, it's actually going to help me stimulate my pituitary

30:00 to have the natural cascade in addition to the exogenous cascade that I'm having to which you would sleep better. I'll go ahead and talk about this now. There's this new compound. out there called MK 777. Well, I'll let Taylor talk about it. Not MK 677, MK777. Now, again, we're like in the pseudoscience swamp today because we'll probably get a lot of people saying, this is pseudoscience. This is not backed up by published studies.

30:30 Anyway, i acquired MK777 and the thought is that it would not have the same effects on prolactin and cortisol and blood sugar as MK 677. So MK677 is a ghrelin agonist and increases growth hormone, but also has these side effects. That's where ipamrelon works really well, is because it's a Ghrelan aganist but does not increase prolacin, does increase cortisol, and that's why people respond well to it. Well, MK 777's supposed to do the thing but morally. Taylor and I acquired some of this and it actually worked really well.

31:03 I was very surprised because MK 677 has these side effects, and that's why I've never recommended it to people. And there's no published studies on MK 777. Maybe we're just taking sawdust. But when I look at my sleep score, I looked at sleep subjectively and objectively, it was much better than just 2 units of growth hormone when i substituted the MK777. Yeah, I haven't taken growth hormone in two weeks. Yeah. I've just been using that.

31:33 And I noticed like my sleep is a lot better and no water retention, which I don't get that much water attention from, from growth hormones. But I mean, like, zero water retention, right? That's what I because I was like, yeah, you know, like it's probably gonna cause water attention. I thought that's like you too. But and we were just doing 10 milligrams. So, a lot of people like MK 677, they'll do 25 milligrams, so we're doing ten milligrams I don't know how the dosing extrapolates.

32:04 Yeah. I will say I was shocked at the lack of water retention from it with the increase in the sleep benefit. And then practically speaking, when I look at like performance in a gym and stuff, I actually think it felt kind of like taking a one milligram of Tessamerelin. without the water retention, to me, just in terms of like how my body felt in term of how I responded. Because the pituitary stimulation is going to be a different feeling than the growth hormone because you're not getting that.

32:38 But the Growth Hormone will still help with sleep and I still am a fan of Growth hormone. But I went back and forth for a little bit. So I would do like growth hormone for just a few days, take that off, do the MK 777. And honestly, I think the sleep was better on the M K 7 7 and that's because of this natural pituitary stimulation impulse. Yeah. Also too. Um, when we look at that and like in Jim's case, he's noticing the sleeping better when you're timing it up at night, because we were taking it night. You're timeing up the epimeral in the night You're having that cycle.

33:12 Like you're basically like inducing that circle in the body to which a lot of people that gets messed up because of blue light and stress and lifestyle and everything. So to Jim's point, that's a very prescient point that I think all of us can take, whether we're doing growth hormone or not. Again, I'm, i'm saying growth hormones is good, but I, there's, a use case, like even with the MK 777, if it's it from Rellon, whatever it is, You can basically go back and forth between those two and yield pretty good results.

33:42 Just the same way, like if you're stimulating a natural production with HCG and then you have exogenous testosterone, you wouldn't want to just use HC by itself. In fact, I think that's a bad, it's not bad. But I wouldn' like to do that. Like I want testosterone. However, there is a reasonable argument to be able to introduce some of these other things. Good point, Jim. Yeah, it's funny. Taylor actually, I think you like the MK 777 better than I do. Yeah. I definitely. And I there's the skin benefit to like, the skincare benefit.

34:17 You know, you're obviously not, if anything, your leaner. I mean, that's like the counter with like growth hormone peptides is sometimes, you know, like, the stronger ones like test. That's been like. The biggest notice that I've noticed the last two weeks is that like my, I, my stomach feels and looks super clean right now. Yeah. Um, and I don't want people to be confused. It is different from MK six seven, seven. Very different, very different. Again, we don' have like published. No, this is just something we just been playing. We just have been testing this on ourselves right.

34:51 Retta has completely changed my life. Very true. Reta is still the king. Yeah. What's up party people. Good to be back on YouTube. Hopefully I don't curse your channel. Don't come after me. Come after your channels because I'm on yours. I would probably cry. Yeah. It's not fun. I would cry more about YouTube than I will about my Instagram. Yeah, because one YouTube, I think it's cooler than Instagram just because the people there, but it just a more, the depth is a lot more on YouTube.

35:29 Okay. So question about injection pins, no matter what or how I do when I withdraw the needle, a few drops leak out. Am I doing something wrong? Are you taking the needle? When you inject, so let's pretend this is your needle. When it's injected in you, leave the needed in and unscrew the need while it is still in. If that's what you're doing, that will help with the leakage.

36:00 What I do, you won't leak. You shouldn't. If you unscrew the pin while the needle is still in. So leave the need in you. Unscrew the pen off of the. And then you should be good and then pull out the because what that does is it removes the back pressure and the air bubble to like, which will get the dropping. Just leave a needle in, unscrew, the pan off the, and pull the out. Hopefully that makes sense. Are there any other resources for desiccated thyroid been sold out? The only one I know of, it's actually a prescription way to get it is called TeliRx.com.

36:36 They're available in most states, like they're not available If they're not in your state, you can open a PO box in another state. If you have to go to the means to do that, but it's pretty affordable on there actually relative to. Alternative channels. But yeah. Telly Rx T L Y R X.com. They have it. And they also have a host of the other typical anti-aging medicine. Uh, low dose, nitric metformin LDN. I don't know if they have Giardians. It probably don.

37:06 Yeah. That's just going to be a tough one for anybody to get. Here's a good one we haven't talked about or haven' seen in a while. How can I get AOD 9064 from gelling? Every peptide researcher should have what's called acetic acid solution, 0.6% I believe is what it is. Acetic acid solution, and if you inject 0.1 ml, so like 10 units on an insulin syringe, into the vial, it should break up the gel.

37:37 If you injected too much of it, its probably going to sting. But, if your inject a little bit, It should breakup the gell. Also too that, in my experience, has worked when NAD crystallizes, If your get some N.A.D. and it crystallize in the Vial. Typically it will break it up. You don't need a lot, but you can get something to have on hand. Usually you get it off of Amazon. or most research companies. Whit says, after about six months or so into peptides, getting some injection, fatigue, any trips, tips or tricks to overcome it?

38:11 I mean, the pins obviously help. The pins make it more convenient, they make faster. the needle caps are smaller. That would be my advice is just switch over to pins with if you haven't done that yet. But I mean, I don't know, do you get injection fatigue? What would you advise someone that's getting it? I would say switch up your injection site areas. So especially if you're getting that more fatigue because you are tired of injecting in your stomach.

38:46 you have for women, it's a little bit easier because women do carry more fat on their thigh or on other leg areas. So I would say like change up the injection site areas and try doing it in the areas where you had other subcutaneous fat areas in your body. And let's also think about like, what are we injecting? Do we need to maybe cycle off some of the injections and just keep like more so more minimum injections going on.

39:18 Um, I think that can be beneficial too, cause sometimes it can definitely happen like when, you know, for injecting like a GLP, a growth hormone, You know a mitochondria peptide, A cognitive peptides, let's switch that up a little bit. Could there be a case where maybe we can switch and do, um, capsules? Can we switch in, maybe do you, know nasal injections just to kind of help give your body a break from the injection fatigue. Yeah. Um, and also I think sometimes too, like I noticed like with me, if I'm noticing like, I've getting more sensitive, definitely that's a sign that I need

39:55 to switch up where I am injecting. And if, sometimes if it is getting sensitive. Okay. That's also telling me there's some type of inflammation going on in my body as well too. Yep. I just think it's just one of those things. Like honestly, there are a lot of days that, not a two or three days of the week, I'm actually not injecting any peptides. And maybe just think about like what you're using, why you are using it. A lot of people like, what happens is, it's like okay I am going to take Reta and then oh, oh shoot I found out you can take Matzi with Rete.

40:27 Not in the same syringe, but you should, you could use Matzie and Rette at the I was like, Oh, well, there's this stuff called sleep. Okay. Let's get, let's go to sleep, but that's oral. So we're good. Yeah. Well, then there is SS 31. Can I take SS31 and MOTC at the same time? Yeah, yeah, I can probably take them at same. Time. I got right at SS-31-MOT-C. Now there are five amino. You know there're injectable five-amino now. let me take some five amino too. And what happens is like six weeks later, you're on 10 things and you forget like, Oh, why was I doing this in the first place?

41:00 And like what am I trying to yield? Mm hmm. And almost all the time, like whatever peptides I'm using, I like okay, this is a very specific like. Okay. Like right now I am using RETTA. I m using SS 31 and for me I s using thymalin right because I d like running thimalin a couple of times a year. Outside of that, m not really. m trying t think is there anything else like I ll just throw in. I'm not really like using anything right now other than like my staple testosterone. And also too, I think maybe let's think about like, you know, maybe some of these peptides you can take at night and split,

41:37 not having to take everything in the morning, see what you you know, that's kind of like where like the, the blends can be very beneficial, which some people will say the plans are not good. Um, but that where, like, you. Using blends. Can be beneficial too. Cause it's like having to do less injections for multiple peptides. Yeah. I think too, again, a lot of people are poo pooing the blend and saying they're not working. And I would just tell you from having chemists when, uh, When I have been involved in developing blends and a chemist lyophilizes it and then test it for

42:18 stability after it's mixed with backwater, the reports have come back that it was stable with all the peptides. Now, unless that person was lying to me, then to that was a good sign that they were working. Again, you have to make your own decision and follow who you want to for those things. There are definitely peptides that can not be mixed in the same syringe. So like you are going to be stuck with the injection fatigue with those, but there are ones that tend to play well together. And so again, people will disagree.

42:48 That's totally fine. I always tell people to don't take whatever we say. Please don' take what I say is the gospel. Do your own research. Use your things. Whenever we're sharing this stuff, I always tell people, I'm just a dude that has been fortunate enough to hear lots of stories of lots experiences with people. And I've used a lot of case studies. Yeah, a lotta stuff on myself. I will always do my best job of synthesizing that into a digestible format that you can go out and make your own informed decision.

43:18 But I don't have the gospel. If there's anything I know, it's that there is a whole heck of a life that I And I am always open to learning and I will never tell someone that like I have the end all be all answers to everything on everything. Cause I definitely don't. Yeah. And luckily we have an amazing audience of you guys that give us feedback on stuff that turns me on to things that I can begin, you know, like thinking about and then helping people with. So. this will be a good one. I want to give myself a break from right at true tide.

43:49 Like a calla curb and a six to eight weeks good to do a reset and then cycle back on money. You should ask Taylor cue the music. We were actually talking about this this morning before we got on. Yeah, no. So a Calla Curb is definitely going to be a great option to start with. And, you know, everybody with CaliCurb is going to be different, as far as how much to take. So like for me, when I use Calicurb, I start off with like two capsules.

44:19 See how I feel? For me personally, that four capsule is my sweet spot. I'll take two in the morning fasted and then If it's a fasting day around, you know, around noon, I'll take two more and that gets me through my day. And this is where I think it is also really important. Okay. So this where like pairing fitness and your GLP cycles are really going to be important, so you've been on a GLT for a while, and you want to cycle off.

44:49 You've gone on GLPs, obviously we're in a fat loss mode. So therefore, we're focusing on leaning out. You got down to your fat loss percentage goal that you want to get to. Okay. Now that we are out of that phase, now let's introduce more calories into the diet and focus on adding more resistance training days and focused on building more muscle. When I say add more calories in, you still want to make sure you're eating super clean calories. So you want be eating clean carbohydrates, clean protein, and still keeping your fat slow.

45:23 I'm a big believer in low fats. And if you are trying to build muscle... Well, sorry, not to interrupt, but let's say moderate fat. Because low fat, I mean, this is a semantic thing. People are like, oh, so 10 grams of fat a day? I would say like in the 50 to 70 grams, which is just a moderate baseline amount. Yes. That's yeah, that's a very good point. But you know, if you're trying to build muscle and add muscle in, you actually don't want to have a high amount of fat in your diet because that's going

45:54 to prevent the muscle from growing. So I would say like, this is what I've seen the best with myself and with the women that I work with is that when you're off your GLPs, focus on just eating more protein, more clean carbohydrates, and add in more resistance training days. That way you can also, you know, get that sensation. You're going be hungrier, so you also need to be able to eat to feed that muscle. Psychologically, it ends up working out. So callocurb is a great one, though, because, you know, still need help with that appetite suppression.

46:27 I would also say there's also some really great peptides that can also be beneficial that. You know there has been some cool studies coming out about using oxytocin. Hunter has a video on that about how oxy tosine can help fat loss and using in about like 20 to 30 minutes before eating a meal can And I think, I, think using that nasally is going to be great. I thinking using it and interjection is gonna be.

46:58 Um, that can be really beneficial. And this is just something I haven't talked about yet, but I do feel an appetite suppression when I use the peptide P 21. Yeah. So. That again, that is not a fat loss peptide at all. That's going to be more in cognitive enhancement peptides. So technically it's not designed for fat-loss, but I notice those benefits when those kick in. And then there also is the other small molecule.

47:31 Or for glipron. Now who thinks of a name like that? I don't know. That is an amazing small molecule to help with appetite suppression. And again, it's great because it is also in a capsule form. Yeah, there's a few just to summarize that to give people the sound bite for it. Let's say you're on Reda. First of all, well, before I do that, I like the idea of blasting and cruising RedA. Meaning, again, a microdose doesn't work. But let's, say, you are taking Red-A, and you start with one to two milligrams.

48:04 You build up to four, maybe you have to get to six milligrams, Okay. It's time to cycle off. What I would do is come down. So like go to six to four, four to two, two down to one, and then stay on a micro dose of like 0.25 or 0 5 milligrams, 2 to 3 times for a week for those 4 to 6 weeks. And then see how you do, because what that's going to do it's gonna give you like a baseline. You're probably not gonna feel that much from it. But what it does is it helps you re-sensitize two of the larger doses. And I see such an improvement in the inflammation benefit that people get and the cognitive benefit people will get from a microdose that it allows you

48:39 to sustain those things. without the massive appetite suppression, or you could use, you know, terzapatite. I'm not saying terzaapatites a substitute, meaning that you can like cycle on and you're going to feel the same way with Reptrutite, because it doesn't work that way. But if you blast and cruise the GLPs, You get the benefits that are there for all of the other things. And then you cycle back at higher doses when you need more of that appetite, suppression or aggressive fat loss. but I like that because I noticed a nutrient partitioning benefit. So let's say I'm like, okay, I need to cycle off, maybe go through a little bit of a bulking phase or a muscle building phase,

49:15 like Taylor was saying. And then I bring it down to a microdose of like one milligram per week broken up into three shots. It's going to help me partition my nutrients better during that time, it's gonna help minimize inflammation, but I am not gonna have the appetite suppression, so I gonna be able to eat more carbohydrates and be put on the muscle, But I do it in a more effective way And what's cool about that is to like really get into this. This is almost like replacing like insulin in like a bodybuilder fashion that they would use insulin to partition nutrients,

49:46 but doing it in a way that's healthier and better for us over time. So there's that. I think there was like the concept of blasting and cruising, But then also now I would say there is like, a warehouse of four things that if you wanted to take a complete break off of a GLP, which I you could, should do, and, One is Orphoglipron. Orphorglifron is a small molecule with a very high binding affinity to the GLP-1 receptor. What Orforglypron does is it works very similar, but it is not identical to that GLp1 hormone, whereas like the glp-ones are analog,

50:21 so they're very, very similarly to GL p-one, they bind to receptor Orfoglyphron's a smaller molecule that binds that receptor with almost a higher affinity than those do. And what you can do is use that. But then chemically speaking to the drug of retitrutide or turzapatide, you're desensitizing yourself to that drug, but you are still working on that receptor. Now, does that mean that you aren't going to like, like is it going like fully replace it, or fully desenitize to it?

50:51 No, because you still activating that receptors, we are talking about a drug and we talk about like anti-drug antibodies and everything. taking time off of the RETA, still hitting that receptor to get the effect, but you're desensitizing to the drug. So there's that, which I think is really cool. So war for Glee prime. Also, like Taylor said, oxytocin, what's interesting about oxy tosin is in human studies, people don't report that they ate less, but they eat less. Which is cool because with like Retta or TURS people are like, I'm eating less because I can't, yeah.

51:25 But oxitocine, you're getting the reward of the food mentally and emotionally with at, with actually eating. Yeah. which is kind of cool. Cause like, what if you could eat like you want to eat, but it's less and you don't feel like your eating less. And you. Don't. Feel. Sick. I think this is really good for people that have more of the emotional attachment and emotional sensitivity, like with food, which I am that person. Because you feel good from the food without like Reddick can almost blue ball you if your emotionally attached to food because you're seeking the dopamine drive.

52:00 Same thing. Yeah. You're seeking the dopamine drive from the food of like getting the emotional hit from it. but you're not filling that up. And you are like, man, I can't eat anymore. This sucks because I really want to eat, you know, to have Thanksgiving with my family. But now I cant because like I cannot enjoy that. Whereas like oxytocin, and you end up just eating less, but still feel that same thing. Because again, what are we doing? Getting oxytoxin. We feel good because of the bonding and the love that comes from eating the food.

52:35 Okay, next one. So we got or for Glee problem. We've got oxytocin. Next one, like Taylor saying is there's a peptide called P 21. I've been playing around with this recently. That, think of like, it's very similar to the way tesofensine suppresses appetite, but I think it is a little bit better. Tesofenzyne doesn't do anything for my appetite. Yeah. And P21, for like a layman's way to explain it, is helping modulate neurotransmitters in the brain. When we talk about overeating, a lot of times we're doing this reward-seeking behavior like dopamine or whatever that's coming from the food.

53:07 And P21 tampers that down by modulating neurotransmitters. It also raises BDNF, which then suppresses appetite because we're in a good mood and we don't necessarily think about food because our brain is doing other things. I like P 21 for that sense. To me, P-21 is like testofensine, but better. And you can do that in the nasal spray or you could do it in injection. That's not one, like oxytocin would be like a timing thing to like where you got to time it up with a meal. P21, you could just do once a day if you wanted to suppress your appetite for like the next 24 or 36 hours, is what I've seen.

53:39 And then lastly was Calicurb, obviously CaliCurb works great. It's the Amerisate or Amarisate, I don't know how you pronounce it, New Zealand hops extract. If you take four to six of those capsules, that definitely is like kind of like, a short window appetite suppressant. What's cool is like the six or 12 months ago, I wouldn't have had all of, we wouldn' have even like known about Orphor Glee Prime or some of these other things. But what's is cool like now we do. And I didn't even mention Kugrelentide, but a lot of people love Kurgrelntide.

54:09 I've seen so many people respond mad to it. It's a toss-up. Some people, like I respond great to Kuggrelantide I don't really have to use it that much. If I like want appetite suppression, you're going to feel better in almost all cases with those other things. Whereas coagulantide is like a toss up. But hey, if you want to keep coaguilentide on hand, but I think to the point, and again, If we need more appetite suppression, a lot of times you can just increase the retidos. but if we want it to like come off of it, there's options out there.

54:41 That was a long answer to that, But I was good because of the stuff that like I've been building up in my data bank and everything. So I haven't shared yet. Man, when you don't have a YouTube channel, there's a lot of stuff I can talk about that I don' want out there, I guess. Someone says, a couple of months ago, someone was debunking myostatin inhibitor's peptides. They said the muscle built using these peptide is not real muscle and could be dangerous. What do you think? I do think when we look at myostatin inhibition, There is a suppression of the immune system.

55:11 So maybe that's what he's referring to in being dangerous, Look, I don't, i'm not going to sit here and tell you guys I know everything or anything about myostatin. I played around with some of them like H31 or folostatin 344. But to me, they don t even work as well as just testosterone and growth hormone. Therefore, you could do. I would say I could understand the argument, because any time we talk about suppressing natural processes in the body, that's just a game that can get dangerous.

55:49 So I don't know. Pathway is like the holy grail of muscle building. Maybe some of these compounds that we have in the future the biome tab or something like that or the Trevor move group tab Those are compounds are like myostatin inhibitors that they they're saying will be really big in a future I don't know, but I do know that androgens and The growth hormone pathway

56:19 is the tried-and-true and if you're you don' even have to do superphysiological, like mega doses like a bodybuilder to build muscle with those things. And to be honest, if we're looking at a safety standpoint, they're way safer that we know of the myostatin inhibitors, because we don't really know any about myestatin. We don' know like what's happening to the immune system with myostatin inhibitor. So I think it's cool, cool thing to like play out. But if it comes to anything when suppressing the system is like, you got to take that with caution.

56:52 Of course. Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, you know, that guy's a doctor, so he's probably studied it more than I have. But I will say for like the purposes of my muscle building, I actually don t really like if you use this stuff right, yo can get the amount of muscle you want on your body. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of people don' because they don''t understand testosterone. They don ''testosterone in women. Don't use it right. And I think like it's also to it''s a categorize of like, Are you wanting muscle for, you know, enhancement for just like optimal living or are you trying to.

57:31 have a like highly intense muscle physique, like a bodybuilder. Cause those are two different worlds. And I think sometimes you can take things in the bodybuilding world and you apply it to like the more optimal biohacker physique worlds, but I sometimes like those, there's like an extreme sometimes that get crossed. I mean, people get overwhelmed and confused about. Yeah. Like for me, I hope this does not sound douchey at all.

58:04 And people please know that if you know me like not trying to sound do she like, don't want that much more muscle. I want to get to a point, which for, me is like kind of where I'm at, that like I like the amount of muscle that I have on my frame and I've just refining that amount. Meaning that, like i'm continuously like working on it, but i've been as big as like 240. reason as of like in the last couple of years, and then also when I played football, I was that big.

58:34 It's not comfortable to me. And so I can't imagine like, if I actually did like push some of these compounds to get that Big, like I, to, me, that's just not like fun to be that. Like I want to have like a good amount of muscle on my frame. That's healthy for my metabolism. There's like healthy. For my body. But a lot of people don't get there. because they, they don't have the testosterone in their body that they need, or they. I think that's also too, another important point is that before we get into like all of these, like more like extra, I want to say extravagant ways of

59:10 building muscle, where are you at first with your baseline with hormones? and the foundation of hormones. Where are you at with their foundation, of your macros? Where you are with your training? Because this is one thing I notice a lot coaching with people is that those baselines are not dialed in and then they want to go to the extreme of using something like that or getting more into like the anabolic world. And it's like, wait, we got to kind of dial back and take it back to like fundamental basics.

59:43 because that's gonna give you more of the result that you're actually really wanting. The boring basics, you know, it is what it, but it's also to note all the myostatin inhibitors in the world. They're going to, they could probably help, I'm sure. But if you're not going the gym three or four times a week and you are not eating enough protein and carbohydrates, It's going be harder to build muscle. I am not saying they can't help. It is also too, we have to ask ourselves like what amount of muscle is appropriate. And those basics of like having those fundamental basics.

1:00:15 Those are more sustainable too. Yeah, no. And I think, like, again, if anyone loves to experiment with stuff, it's Taylor and I, but it also too. I Think people would be surprised with on a daily basis, I'm not taking a bunch of these different things. For most people, If you get your hormones out in, and then you have a baseline of a few peptides that you're using throughout the year, you can have really great amount of muscle on your body.

1:00:48 But before we start like tapping some of these pathways that may seem better because it's like, Oh, well, my STD inhibitor is not affecting my reproductive hormone system per se. we need to have a conversation about what is actually doing to get the same result that would come from that. But I think for a woman that goes from having 0.2 free testosterone to even a free-testosterone level of four or five, that's going to be the best thing for muscle that you can do. And it's not going turn her into a dude or anything or really affect her immune system.

1:01:23 Urban says, is it OK to start sloop at 20 milligrams? I wouldn't. 0.5 or one milligrams, but that's got to be up to you. I personally wouldn't do that. When I did the high dose loop, I was very accustomed because I've been using sloop for over a year, even at higher doses. And even before I do, that I started taking five milligrams and 10 milligrams per day of sloop to like a custom, my body to even that, just to make sure I, was going to okay. Okay. But also to, you know, the funny thing about that too, is when I would say like 10, milligrams of sleep, didn't feel any different than one milligram.

1:01:57 But again, I've been using it for a year. Let's see. I'm taking three and a half milligrams of ters and still experiencing food noise and minimal appetite suppression. What are your thoughts on introducing Reda midweek? I think Redo, you can definitely stack it on top of it. Some people don't like that, but I it's fine. It's just kind of introduced. Maybe a little redundant, But you could definitely add that in to One, help with like some extra fat burning. That's still what you're trying to do. You're obviously probably will get a little bit more appetite suppression. But honestly, if you want more, appetite, suppression and food noise suppression, you are going to have to up the dose or resensitize yourself to it.

1:02:33 And that's kind of what we were talking about earlier with some of those other things. So again, like, Three and a half milligrams, that's still a lot lower than like some of the clinical doses. And we look at like people on these for a long time. You're probably just going to have to up the dose if that what you're doing, but maybe you could use like a P 21 a couple of times a week to help with food noise, or maybe could you use, um, Orfor Gleapron. I think they're studying right now using Orforg Gleepron alongside some the other GLP ones. So maybe can use that because typically that lasts like day or so for me, like in terms of effects.

1:03:05 Yeah. That was a nice suggestion. This is a good question. I've been on Reda and loving the results, but I found I have no energy to go to the gym. What do you recommend for energy, to to gym? Typically like the, the default to that, like that I would go through first is A lot C because a lot of people you're, when you think about like Red, what you are doing is you burning, you telling the body to burn more calories and you consuming less food. That's like a gap from what the bodies used to doing energetically.

1:03:35 And so you not going to have as much energy in a lotta cases. When you introduce something like Matzi, it helps drive mitochondrial function, and it's going to help increase the amount of energy you have. So like, Matzzi is good, Sloop can be good. Five amino, injectable. I was gonna say five amino's really good because you get like a punch. Yeah. And I love the energy from five-amino. It feels really the injectible five amino, And you could do like 0.5 milligrams to one milligram. Do really well with that. If I do higher than like two milligrams, injected the five Amino I get Yeah.

1:04:08 It's like jittery. So, but other people, I've heard people doing like really high doses of that. I like one milligram to me, like 1 to 2 milligrams is a sweet spot for that if I do any more. When I inject it in her muscularly versus subcute, notice I get a bigger punch of an energy boost with it. Yeah, yeah. Because it's, it getting absorbed right away, getting metabolized right. Five amino is also a small molecule. Its not really a peptide. And so when we look at like small molecules, sometimes it's better to inject those in the do sub queue.

1:04:39 But obviously it was a case by case basis. I know she's our biggest fan. And I used to pronounce it China, but I think it Sheena, right? Anyway, Taylor and I love you. She says husband on TRT, Cialis, and, I One to two milligrams of estrogen. He just told me he stopped taking estrogen while I was away, he says, because scrotum shrinkage.

1:05:10 I haven't personally noticed that. If anything, I noticed the opposite, but Again, anything is possible. So if he doesn't feel good, let's say like injectable estrogen is not for all men, but I feel better if I inject even just one to two milligrams per week. If he does not feel, good I wouldn't take it. But also too, you could use HCG if you needed to for testicular fullness. I tell guys to try some testigen first because I like how I've seen a lot of other guys feel on testigens than HCGs and it kind of has the same effect.

1:05:45 So yeah, you can, do that. But I never really have scrotum shrinkage even without those things. And so, but like I know other guys that they do and it really bothers them. So, um, yeah. Jacqueline, she, has kind of the same question. Let's see. Any opinions on nitric oxide lozenges and there are any benefits? The only ones that I've ever used that, I really like, they're called, it used to be called NO2U.

1:06:21 I think it's NO1 now, is the name of it. Look up Dr. Nathan Bryan. He's an amazing guy, really cool dude. he's like the bleeding doctor in the nitrous oxide world. But his company, last time I, was called N O the number two and then U, the letter U. He's a genius and I love those lozenges. So I think there's benefit to them, especially the older a man or a woman gets just to enhance that. I'm not going to say it's like Cialis in terms of like the performance benefit.

1:06:52 It pairs very nicely though with some PDE5 inhibitors. Um, I have mild Crohn's and want to avoid biologics. They use bio-gut pro, but I need to cycle off. And I try clove, which I do KPV separately at higher doses. Yeah, I would probably do KPV by itself because I love KP and it seems to help more specifically with gut health or even KP along with the PC. Yeah, you can do that too. Yeah.

1:07:22 I think when we look at KPV, like what KPB is doing so well is it is suppressing the inflammatory environment within the body. So we have a suppression of all these inflammatory cytokines that we see like in someone with Crohn's disease. And what KPV does so much better than like BPC or TB 500 is, it suppresses the inflammatory environment. BCC and TB500 are great, but they don't have the same suppression information that KPD does. So yeah, I would definitely do that. You know what could be really good for that too? Cause it's different, but it similar is Vlon.

1:07:55 And you know, that's pretty cheap to do, But I will just do KPP at higher doses in the meantime. Um, you can do it orally and injected. That's what I'll do for something like Crohn's. I don't know anything about clotho, so I'm I Don't have any information about clothe. I I can't really speak to it Oh, yeah, that's she's asked the same thing about the testicular shrinkage or Thoughts on ARE-290,

1:08:29 and what do you find works best to reconstitute? Many claim backwater doesn't work. I love ARE, ARE A2-90. More people could stand to benefit from that when we talk about chronic pain or neuropathic pain. I would have to double check, but I think it's one of those peptides. I've never had it gel when I mixed it. But I know some people say it gels. Probably could do the same thing with the acetic acid solution and just help it from gelling up when it does it, I'd use backwater and then do that.

1:09:04 So yeah, But i'll have look at that more. Again, please don't take that as gospel. If it is gellling, that's what I try to do. I've heard people, it's kind of like half and half. Some people say they never have issues with it and some people do, so. We have labs on Monday, should he stop it prior and should we both stop TRT a few days before as well? I think it kind depends on your doctor. Like if your doctors a person that's gonna freak out if you're outside the reference range on stuff, I would stop like three or four days so that you fall

1:09:35 into the references when you get your blood work done. But if the doctor's cool, then I wouldn't worry about it. So I know my doctor's cool if I have to submit my blood work. And a lot of times, I'm just doing stuff for myself. I don't worried about. It I just do my normal thing, and I'll do it on a regular day. Just be mindful when you're getting that bloodwork done. If you are still using your hormones, be in mindful that if you not working with a doctor, that's also going to put your levels at that area too.

1:10:08 Yeah. And so just be aware. Like if you inject testosterone, you'll get your blood work done. It's going to be higher, but like, it's not going be that same in like 36 hours. So just take it with a grain of salt. I think people because of their doctor, because doctors, a lot of times, in a lotta cases, are just treating the reference range, they get worried, like, oh, man, is it too high? Is it to high or whatever? Well, understand the dynamics of what you're using, when you took it, and if you inject on Monday and you don't inject anything and get your lab work done

1:10:42 on a Thursday and have it injected since Monday, Like I've done that before. My testosterone is like in the seven hundreds and the doctor's like perfect. So like, um, but I know it's going to be higher when I inject. Um, and depending on how much I direct, so anywhere on my coaching group, stay tuned. Be coming soon. Yes, very soon Here's a good question for Taylor. I have terrible plantar fasciitis, so I'm interested in what's worked for this. Good question. If you know, let us know. Actually, Taylor's been dealing with this on and off for the last few months.

1:11:15 Yeah. So I would say what I've noticed is really working in mobility and stretching every day. Doing some type of mobility in stretching work is going to be super beneficial as I got a lot of relief from that. Um, rolling with an ice water bottle, that's been helping. And then also when it comes to what I've been doing for the injections, for a while I was just injecting on like the top of my foot,

1:11:50 just because inject on the bottom of the foot area is really painful and the days that like I did inject on the bottom of my foot, it actually irritated and made the plantar fasciitis worse. But what I have noticed is that injecting my peptides like in the shin or in calf area, that's helping because that where it's stemming from is from having tight calf muscles, tight hip flexors.

1:12:20 So inject in that area has been helping a lot in things that I have tried as I've done VLON. I'm done a blend of KPV, TB 500, BPC. And I feel the most relief with that blend. and I had been doing cartilax the last couple of weeks. That's definitely been help, but also incorporating the stretching and the mobility work.

1:12:52 has been extremely beneficial and there is. Yeah, that's and really going and getting like massage once a week and body work done once week. I know that can be. That's more of a luxury thing. It can expensive, but it has made the biggest. Impact and difference is doing that and then also what I've noticed and this is coming out when I get done editing my most recent YouTube video is What

1:13:24 also is, if diet and everything is all tuned in, stress in the body, I think a lot of it can be mental and not saying that it's all mentally coming from that, but stress will absolutely in mind will work its way into the And so actually working with, um, color puncture therapy this past week and talking with the practitioner that I was doing that with when we were talking about a certain subject that has caused a big amount of stress in my life.

1:13:57 When I talk about that, I instantly could feel my legs instantly lock up. Talking about that. So for me, that's assuming like, you know, when I get stressed and I Get tense. That is where I tend to lock up is in my calves in My legs, so I don't want to sound woo woo but like I think for me, a lot of this is also sending from the mental aspect along with not properly stretching, not probably working on mobility work.

1:14:29 Cause that's probably like, you know, that probably one thing that drives Hunter crazy with me is just how tight my muscles and hip flexors are and not incorporating that. in has made a difference. And I'll say yoga has. The biggest, the biggest difference, but I mean, I'm just a yogi lover. I've done yoga for years and I go through stages where like, not as good about practicing it, incorporating that back in, especially the last 30 days has a big help to my mental health.

1:15:02 But it's also made. Big difference on my body, having to really be mindful when you're doing the stretching and the mobility work, especially with plantar fasciitis, because you really want to stretch the calves. But you also have to be. Mindful because. You don't want. To push your body because if you overly stretch something, you are actually going to irritate the plant of fascia worse. So, and I think. honestly, a lot of it is being consistent and Waking up first thing in the morning. I keep an exercise lacrosse ball by the bed and you know rolling my foot out first in in morning before I get out of bed has helped and to the point like

1:15:41 I haven't been able to Walk barefoot up for the last like Honestly since June and right now it's gotten to point Like I can actually walk bare foot a little bit in house. Um, I So I guess just being mindful. I know that's kind of long-winded, but. So there's not a peptide to fix it. Unfortunately. And that the thing that I've learned is that you can take all the hormones. You can. All the peptides, that like, again, going back to those fundamental basics of stretching properly, doing the mobility work.

1:16:15 Don't go jumping into straight into, you know, your weightlifting session without stretching after you're done weight lifting, like really spending 15, 10 to 15 minutes really stretching. After you've done resistance training. I know like, it's like man, I don't have time for all these steps, but like from somebody who didn't take the steps to do those, It's actually going to also put, this is what my body worker talked about, it's going put you in a phase where you're not going be able to build the muscle

1:16:45 the way that you want it. Obviously, I'm a woman and I talk a lot about building glute muscle and getting the shape that I want to achieve is not achievable if those muscles are tight and they can't move properly. In the long run, you know, keep working and doing this in the long run, I'm going to be able to build muscle in a better way and keep it sustainable and. Keep that happening and also red light therapy that's helped a ton. the the bathtub, the many oxygen bathtubs help, I get those are things that are not easily accessible for all people.

1:17:21 But, you know, even the bond charge red light blanket that we have like that does help when I use that. Do I feel a better, a fact when i use Hunter's mom's trifecta red lipid? Yes, but that really helps. And again, i really think like the mental health aspect of it, of like what's stressing you, getting down to the root of that can very much, I don't know. I think that's very beneficial too.

1:17:51 Yeah, and also remember too with plantar fasciitis, what do all of us do? Walk. And no matter what a peptides or whatever, it's going to be repeated use the same way. Like if someone has tennis elbow, A lot of times if they're using peptides, the peptide will help. But if you continue playing NS, it's going to keep flaring up because you're repeatedly using it. I will say the gel pads that you got me. Hunter recently got these insertable gel. Pads to put into my shoes. That really helps shoes make a big difference too.

1:18:21 Like before I'm a Big Vivo barefoot fan. Can't wear those right now. Unfortunately, I have to wear the grandpa Hoka shoes that have like a heel, like that thick, they make me like Hunter makes fun of me, but those are the only thing that helped my feet. Um, Vonick is another brand. They have, um, their recovery singles. If you have plantar fasciitis, those were going to be like wearing clouds. It was like basically the one shoe I could wear all summer that didn't give me pain. Yeah.

1:18:51 So yeah, it's a multifaceted thing. And I think too, I said like the repeated use it. Like if you could not, use your feet for like a month, it probably would help. How feasible is that to just be laid up? It's not realistic. Moving along, we got some long answers today. Hopefully they're good though. This is helpful to you guys. And I always like to say, if one person's asking that question, there's probably a good amount of people watching this that have plantar fasciitis.

1:19:21 So hopefully it's helpful. I don't know anything about recombinant folistatin, so I cannot speak to that, unfortunately. It's KPV, GHK, TB 500 and LL 37. Can those be mixed? No, I actually would not mix L L 37 with anything. The KPB, G H K and T P 500 typically are fine. I wouldn't mix all 37 things though. Yeah, the rule of thumb about mixing peptides. If it gets cloudy, it probably is not good. Probably denatured.

1:19:52 Yep. Taylor's code at Soma Kim's. Be careful though, saying that on the YouTubes. Lab calls on private group when that is ready will be once a week. Once a. Week. Typically right now. Right now it's Thursday. Thursdays at eight and Taylor group. Maybe we'll keep that. Yeah. You know, Wednesday might possibly switch it to Wednesdays. Um, Yeah. 61 year old woman just had ACL meniscus repair surgery three days ago, taking GLO, KPV and Belon and have not had to take any pain meds.

1:20:28 That's great. Should I add ARA 290? Yeah, I don't think that there's any downside to adding ARI 2 90 in that case because it's going to help with red blood cells migrating to the area and helping with nerve pain. I just don' see any down side to it. And if you're doing like half a milligram, one milligram per day, that's totally fine. Can I mix GHK with BPC and TP500 and KPV? I heard that GH K should be taken alone as it will destroy other peptides. I don't know. People will say that I've done.

1:20:59 It works fine for me. So that's all I can say. And I know it seems to be that there's a lot of people that are trashing that. Maybe they have a lot of GHKs, so I don't know. Can you talk about it from around the morning causing sleepiness? I'm on 150 micrograms taking the AM before cardio. It makes me quite sleepy. Yeah, that's very common because you're stimulating the pituitary to release growth hormone, which typically is a nightly thing.

1:21:29 So all I would do, I'll just take that and switch to night. There's a benefit to taking it pre-cardio, but then also too, some people get sleepy like that. If you were getting sleepy, definitely take it at night because it's also going to you'll like that your sleep's deeper with that. Yeah. This is a good question. If you could choose SS 31 or Mod C, which would you pick? Taylor, go first. I would pick SS31. Again, I think it's also using them. What are you using then for? But I thing starting off using SS-31 first to think of that as the foundation the house so that's like the found using that it's going to help with the

1:22:06 foundation of the mitochondria and then coming in and using the MOTC. I like using MotC more for like energy and more fat loss benefits but if you really want to focus more on mitochondrial health if your dealing with um you know any kind of like autoimmune issues any kinda inflammation issues SS 31. Yeah. I would say there's a use case for every single person walking the earth right now for SS 31. Mozi is going to be more acute,

1:22:36 meaning that I will use that more as an intervention. Not that you have to. but more as like I'm going to get an effect out of it versus SS 31 is just good. Meaning that like any healthy young old man, woman can use SS31. I would use Motzi more like an interventionary type thing, meaning that, like, okay, I want to lose fat or my energy's low and I try to use energy. Not that you couldn't use it, because it's an endogenous peptide that declines as we age. But for me, it would be SS-31 all day.

1:23:11 probably kids too, cause they use it in kids and trials or in medical practice because they have mitochondrial myopathy and another disease called bar syndrome to which now SS31 is FDA approved. I think SS 31 can be used by everyone. And again, it's another endogenous peptide that we all have walking in our body. Here's a good question. Oh, how about this? Was doing a search on Hunter and came across a live morning coffee event. That's fortuitous timing.

1:23:41 They call it like the hundredth monkey syndrome. I mean, this is not the a hundred monkey's syndrome, but it's like, you know, like you're looking, asking you shall find, seeking you. Let's say, so they said, before I do my blood work, do you rec-, before, or getting ready to start my peptide journey, but before you do, what bloodwork do recommend that I get? I just, my favorite blood panel, if you go to LifeExtension.com, it's the male elite panel. If you're a male, female is the female elite. It's like $575, and it has everything that you would ever want, like, not everything, pretty much everything that I like to see.

1:24:16 Sometimes I'll run it on sale for like $4.25 out there. I don't have like a coupon code or anything for it like that, but I really liked that one. Male, 53 years old, physical therapist, fairly active. But recently I've been gaining excessive amounts of weight over the past few years. Prolon, five-day fast, continue PREs two to three times a week. I'd say first thing, Al, get your testosterone checked. If you have low testosterone, that's going to make it very, very hard to build muscle, burn fat. Free and total.

1:24:46 Yeah, free and totally testosterone. See where you're at. And if you are 53 and you aren't using testosterone most likely you'll have a deficiency, what I would call a efficiency. That would be the first and I say get you blood work done, see there. Okay, boom. Get your just testosterone fixed. then we can go into, not that you couldn't use Reta right away, but like, we're gonna find out in the future when they do studies on it, that RETA plus testosterone in men and women at a therapeutic dose is like the greatest thing ever. You have Rета plus, testosterone plus Jardience is the like greatest, greatest things ever, so.

1:25:20 I would get that done first, most likely if you're not already testosterone deficiency. That's what's happening. Your doing the same thing that your always done that's worked, And it's not working as well as because you don't have the gas in the tank. And that's what sucks is that like all the diet changes, all those things, the world are not going to change the amount of testosterone you have in your body. Yeah. Jim, really good question from Jim. He says, thoughts on using Telmasartan if my blood pressure is already good, was thinking of using it for longevity? I think there's a case for that. I would do a much lower dose though.

1:25:51 Like I take 40 milligrams a day and that's probably even a little high. So if your blood meaning that like if someone has normal blood, pressure it might drop them down. For me, it usually puts me like I took my pressure earlier this week. It was like 112 over 75 or 80 or something. And I usually take 40 milligrams at night. Most people take 80 milligrams, but you could even do 20 milligrams. So if you get 40 milligram tabs, split them in half. But I think it's a great longevity compound for what we see. There's lot of ancillary data around men that use it and all cause mortality.

1:26:24 Funny enough, I was researching that this week because I want to do another video on it with some of that data. Really good question, and I can actually speak to this. ATX 304, any side effects to watch out for like increased heart rate or overstimulation, you know the peptide could be compared to. Well, in light of the high-dose loop conversation, I think ATX 304 at the right dose is actually what people are going after with high dose loop. We actually have human data in 1000 milligrams of ATx per day in people with no adverse effects, no increase in heart rate,

1:26:58 and only good effects because it's an AMPK activator. most companies sell 100 milligram capsules and most people are doing two to 300 milligrams, which works. Like I feel an effect from that, but I've played with like five or 600 milligrams and I like that way better than high dose sleep way. Better. And you don't have the side effects. You don' have to increase in heart rate or anything like. Again, I. Feel leaner on it. Well, of course. Yeah. It's, ATX is like metformin without any of the purported downsides of met formin because it's an AMPK activator.

1:27:32 I think ATx, if we look at AT x, people ask me like, what's AT X versus sleep, two different things. When we just look like intended outcomes though, at X is, like a longevity compound. So it was going to help you burn fat, but it also going have a cascade based on the fact that it is an ampk activators of, improving longevity markers, whereas like too high dose sloop for too long is going to have a downside. So we have human data that a thousand milligrams per day has good effects in people and no adverse effects.

1:28:05 And so I'm a bigger fan of that. And I think in terms of the feel, it definitely feels kind of similar to sloop. I would actually say I don't notice like the strength benefit. Cause like if you're taking sloop, you do get like a strength. Benefit. It's better like with cardio. Yeah. A better one. When I use it, when I do cardio, I actually think, as we get more and more of these things, but maybe it does met form and become as relevant in the future because we have Jordy and now we They're like kind of hitting the same pathways, but we don't have like any effect, you know,

1:28:40 like because Metformin effects IGF-1, not like terribly, ATX doesn't do that. And I think if you look at the extrapolated longevity markers in rodent data and human data on ATx, it works better. So I like AT x. I will still use Sloop at a lower dose in the future, but I AT X for the intended results better, and you can get up to a higher dosing threshold, or at least for higher dose relative to what is manufactured now without having these changes in heart rate or anything like that,

1:29:16 No, I do not have guidance on what product to order from the website for HGH. My platform is at risk as it is. Don't need to do that. That's private information. BPC-137 drops my blood pressure and supplements to help combat this. I mean, if it's too low, obviously that's not a good thing if your blood is too high. You would want something I guess that is more of a vasoconstrictor. I'm thinking like, well, maybe caffeine will help.

1:29:48 Um, I don't know. Maybe your dose is too high. Haven't I, don' know that I've seen that in people, but maybe just take time off and then like ask yourself what you're using VPC for. And maybe there's a better peptide in your case that you could use it for maybe like KPV. I don't know for the MK777, you just have to kind of source that yourself right now. There's not like one place that I would recommend it. I. Don't wear a continuous glucose monitor as far as like average blood sugar level.

1:30:19 This is probably a good sec, good little topic to talk about right here. Um, I, don' stress about my fasting bloodsugar very much. Usually it's like in the 85 ish to 90 range. but I don't get worried if it's higher because like if I'm stressed the day before and I sleep as well, it gonna be higher, right? Like if do something that can cause it to be high, its gonna higher. I would look more at A1C, hemoglobin A 1C but even then I dont like that as much as my fasting insulin.I target my fasting insulin usually if you're a

1:31:00 single digit is gonna good. Ideally, like five or lower is gonna be good. But what the fasting insulin tells me is like, how much insulin is my pancreas pumping out to try to bring down my blood sugar? And you can have a normal blood Sugar with a high fasting Insulin, meaning that the pancreatic is overtaxed and working to Bring down that bloodsugar. That's why I like using fasting, insulin as a level and people get real granular. I don't think it's a bad thing. Maybe you feel like you know, for like four to six weeks, you want to wear a CGM and track with foods.

1:31:30 Make you maybe make you have like a response or whatever. but I don't worry about it as much. I think it's one of those things like you can geek out over, but it like, okay, well, like if your blood sugar is normal but your fasting insulin is high, to me, that's not a good thing. Meaning that like the pancreas is working over time. So I do not, I can be useful for some people, it is just one those thing, its a much more like transient marker compared to other stuff.

1:32:03 What'd be cool is that they had fasting insulin or like a continuous insulin monitor to see like what insulin levels were. I think that would be a better lagging indicator of metabolic health, if that makes sense. Well, KPV completely fixed my histamine issues. It is like time and time again, like KP is so underrated. If more, I wish as many people knew about KPB as BPC. Yeah. I wish more people knew about peptides in general, but most people you go out on the street, they wouldn't know BPC from anything.

1:32:40 But KPV, man, KP is just continues to shine. Hopefully that one gets more attention in the future. If you're going through a period of traveling, being around a lot of people in lack of sleep or mitochondrial peptide like MOTC, not the best to take. I heard they may affect your immune system. I don't think so. I mean, you could technically, okay, like I guess like the theory would be like, well, it's like driving more energy production in the body. My immune system is compromised. So I'm like stressing myself out.

1:33:13 Maybe it not the best thing to take, but I think it is a bad thing. If I was going through a lot of traveling, I would use thymus and alpha one and glutathione. That would like be the primary thing, or you can use Thymalin too. I'm missing off one and timeline and glutathione would be good. I've been taking the close stack mainly for degenerative disc disease and it seems to help maybe 50% better thoughts about adding 0.2 milligrams of VIP. Yeah, that's an interesting thought.

1:33:46 Don't think there's any downside to that. Probably would help with pain. I would add in probably cartilax to see how that would do. Maybe Vilon would help too, just with the inflammatory environment there. And then that's what the VIP is going to help to. I don't, a lot of people don' know about VIP, but it's a neuropeptide, I could try it. A lot people like it intranasally if they're going Thank you for the love.

1:34:21 Taylor, my wife, following you now for menopausal with peptide options. Love you guys. Thank You. We love you, guys! This is why we do what we, do because we like helping people. It's one of the best things, best feelings in the world to see stuff that you do help people and change their life. So, Taylor do you take down your dose of mitochondrial peptides in your luteal, I think they meant to say lutial phase. I find them overstimulating with high progesterone. Any thoughts and guidance for stack during the lutenal phase? I mean, I would say I personally don't take down my, my dosing of mitochondria peptides, because I do think that it does help with inflammation,

1:35:01 especially like SS 31. But if that's how you're feeling, and you notice that when you are taking mitochondrial peptide during your literal phase, then I say stop. If you were getting a negative feeling from anything, I'd say stop it. And then the peptides that I do think help around the lutear phase are going to be oxytocin. I, Melana Tandwan is a great peptide that i've used during my luteral phase of my cycle and that's helped me the most. iIve had a lot of women also give me feedback that has helped them.

1:35:32 So I would say more those ones would be my opinion. Yeah. My first thought would be like, it probably, if it's a peptide that's going to do that, is probably Matzi and then SLU. Yeah, and I would just not take those during those few days of the month is what I wouldn't do. Because like if you're using Matzie and you want to use it for eight weeks or whatever, just don't take it in those three days. And yeah, probably. You know, short half life. Like, I don' think it' really good.

1:36:02 There's no downside to like not taking it a few day. No, there's not. Psycho. Oh, here we go. I don't think anything of well, let me say this guys. So the only thing I get from other influencers is videos people send me. And so I don't spend my day consuming other people's content. I spend day creating content and researching and talking to people that need help.

1:36:36 And so like I don't when when you ask about like other people's content, like, I just don' really have a response to it, you know. But what are your thoughts on my awful eyes loop? I don't know anything about it. My understanding is that people selling sloop as a lyophilized powder are selling MOTC in a vial from what I've heard. But even if it was that, someone asked me yesterday about DMSO inject, like injecting DmsO, I would never inject D MSO.

1:37:08 And that's me personally. I'm not a doctor. Don't have a doctors in my name. Three letters behind my names. So that is my thoughts on that. Any C60, methylene blue or other experimental non-injection compounds? I love C-60. Yeah, C 60 is awesome. Methylene blue, let's see, non injection compounds being researched. I guess the MK 777 would be one. If you weren't here, you can watch a recording.

1:37:38 We talked probably about that for 15 or 20 minutes. It seemed to like that. Like it was a lot better than MK 677. Any peptides you can recommend for rosacea? I know testosterone helps, which I put her on already. I think KPV would work amazing for Rosaceae and whether it's injected or topical. Um, I haven't specifically seen this, but I've just heard reports about ivermectin horse paste.

1:38:11 If you apply that topically, that helps a lot with acne and rosatia from what I have seen from people. So I don't, i'm not saying that would. Also with Rosatio, like also like in, Dairy can irritate rosacea more if dairy is part of your diet. I would say cut that out and see if that helps. But I'd say topically, KPV and even topical BPC is going to help a lot with redness with the rosation.

1:38:43 Also, thank you for the plantar fasciitis scraping tips because I do see that in here. Taylor, thank you for all you do. Are you getting testosterone injectable form from an HRT clinic or a doc or doctor you see in person? So my doctor, I get my HRTs from my, um, prescribed for me from doctor and my Doctor does telehealth medicine. Yeah. So, he's not here in North Carolina. Um, so, and hopefully in the future, In the future, we will be able to have more reference for doctors.

1:39:21 So. Have you seen peptides or molecules like tesofencing dissolved in DMSO in liquid form? Are these orally safe? Doesn't feel like it. I have not seen that. Guys, when it comes to DmsO, I'm not saying that some people can't use it to good effect. Mm-hmm. But I do not mess around with D MSO. DMSO is like such a powerful carrier agent. And I know there's like skincare products and stuff that have it or whatever. I'm just not, when I do what I, I am not getting around with like mixing DmsO or doing it, or that just, that's not in my wheelhouse.

1:39:59 You'll have to go talk to other people about that. That have YouTube channels because I don't have a YouTube channel. So. What are your thoughts on taking a small dose of red at midweek while also taking low dose weekly injection deters? I think we talked about that earlier. I Think that's fine. Yeah, that was fine Can it promote and lower blood sugar I? Think indirectly people will say like if anything growth hormone peptides will like have more of a direct effect of raising blood Sugar, but I wouldn't I wasn't see it like dangerously lowering blood blood, sugar But indirectly like it's not as high blood.

1:40:31 Sugar. It's gonna help them sleep better burn more fat build more muscle so Indirectly good I want to start immediate release Metformin for longevity 63 in shape female going to try 500 milligrams with dinner. Then move to twice a day. Good plan. Side effects benefit. Thanks. Yeah. And you might not even need to go higher than that. So you, I could just take it once a. I think for. Longevity that's totally fine. Okay. Also too, like for Lungevity, it seems to be that like the data is trending and direction of using SGLT twos like Jardience or Farsega.

1:41:07 Meaning that they're going to have like a better longevity effect in that format. I mean, there's a ton of data around that for longevity. So yes, that's good. But you might, for a female 63 that is in shape, you may not even need to go higher than that, to be honest. Especially if you're using RETTA and you are healthy and doing everything. Does SS31 and Urolythin A do the same things? Not really. SS 31 is remodeling, basically for all intents and purposes, is like remodel your mitochondria and improving the hardware structure of your Mitochondria.

1:41:42 Urolithin-A is kind of like cleaning out debris from the mitochondra. So they're not doing the thing. I mean, they are both helping with mitochondrial health, but they were acting a little bit differently. I get incredible air hunger and anxiety from your listening, but SS 31 has been perfect. Interesting. Yeah. If I could only use one, I would probably say SS 30 one. But I take both and I think they're both good. Bang for buck fasting, sleeping, lifting, or lift heavy things.

1:42:14 Gratitude practice, MOTC, methylene blue, and AD plus TMG, NMN, dihydro berberine, like a hundred dollars a month, maybe depending on sources. There you go. That's all you need. Awesome. Do you think there is a place for BAM15 and are you a fan of it? Seems like a pricey product and I've heard in mixed reviews. I definitely think that there's a space for a BAN15. But BAM15 is also something that can be used, and I've used before, I like it.

1:42:48 I think using Slip and BAN15 together, like I know that's controversial, but I have had great results with pairing them together. Yeah, yeah. So, Yeah. Like I liked BAND15. It definitely has a place. I just wouldn't get into like super high doses, like seven or 800 milligrams per day. That's probably too high, but anything, you know, the 50 to 300 ish milligrams a day, I've liked it so far. It is pricey. You know?

1:43:18 It's just different, it's an uncoupler, so it works. Different. Dopamine stack. P21. There's that compound called 9MeBC, which is supposed to repair dopamine function. I never played with it because I have never really what I would have is like self-diagnosed dopamine issues. But yeah, P 21 is great. I think P21 is going to be the next peptide. Yeah. Not a lot of people know about it.

1:43:49 A lot. People know. About it, I. Think it blows B max and C like out of the water. Yes. So I, think that's going. To be like, kind of like the. Next spotlight peptides, like how like no one really KPV was very underrated. No one was talking about it and then started talking it, and it's gotten a lot more light. I think P21 is going to be the next peptide. Robert, go Deeks. 10 minutes of kickoff, baby. Let's go. It's actually homecoming today.

1:44:20 Do they typically ask you to discontinue HGH test step, desiccated thyroid prior to surgery? I know BPCT, I mean, your doctor probably will, they probably won't want you take anything. I wouldn't discontinued those things though. There is something our co-hosts in our group talked about this is there is with GLPs with surgery. something with anesthesia. So, oh, like anesthetics. Yeah. Like anesthesia.

1:44:50 I don't know. Yes. 65 beginner, no injection, cognitive longevity, peptides, compound stack for my parents and in-laws. P21 nasal spray would be good. Dihexa would J 147, dihexa and nupap would be good. They'll definitely notice some cognition benefits. Obviously like if they're going to refuse to inject, you know, get the best of the bunch. But those are good, those were really good that you could get them started on.

1:45:22 I think they'll probably love it too because a lot of those people that age, no testosterone, like their hormones aren't great. And so cognitive peptides have a pronounced effect on them because they typically have so much brain fog. And there's a lot of, there are more studies now with J 147 and dihexa for like, um, dementia and Alzheimer's. So like that's always like I've noticed like with our parents, kind of bring, get some of that study material together and bring that to them when you present,

1:45:54 um, when he present those things has helped our parents. Yeah. Your family, your family is always the last to listen to you, but when they do, they listen good. My dad's like a spokesperson now for like, do a show with your dad. I actually do think we should do a show with him and he would love it. And my dad's a character. He, yeah. Yeah. I mean, when I say this, like, literally, you transformed and saved his life.

1:46:26 You told him what to take. His life has been transformed. He doesn't listen to me, but he listens to other people. It's so much cooler. As you guys know, I don't really do a lot of podcasts with other influencers or stuff. And it's not because there's no other influences I like. There's plenty that I'm really good friends with and stuff I just like talking to regular people, though, so it was more. That's why I liked doing these. Eventually, we want to turn this into a call-in radio style show where people can actually ask us questions live on air.

1:46:58 And we just have conversations. That's what I want to do. Like I love doing that. I grew up listening to talk radio and I thought it was always like the coolest thing. Whether it's like Dave Ramsey or whoever. They just talk to regular people. You know, like, Dave Ramsay didn't talk like Wall Street bankers or whatever. Whatever you think about like financial principles. I, it was just so cool. Like I remember like I would love listening to that as a kid of just like, Hey, like this regular person, I could call on the radio,

1:47:29 and talk to them if I wanted to. It made such good content, but it also, you learn so much more when you hear questions from other people that are like you, instead of having, there's nothing wrong, again, with doing podcasts with other influencers. I'm not like anti that, But it's just, to me, It's so more fun. Like when someone is asked, like someone there's that question from Echo, there are probably 40 people on this call right now that have parents and in-laws

1:48:01 that of cognitive issues that you just don't get into this stuff like that when you're doing the traditional podcast. Do I know a traditional supply or a reputable supplier for cerebral lyosin? Mother had a major stroke. That's an email list question. that's a private thing question, can't talk about that publicly. And they're cracking down on a lot of people that sell it. Yeah. Beerming with a three week micro cycle, micro dose of YK11, LGD, 4033, N85 amino, Tessa-IPA, lots of B's, gold, cut.

1:48:37 I don't know anything, echo about like Y-K, LGD. Uh, yes, Tammy, these are posted on YouTube. So if you go to Taylor's channel, go her channel and just click the live tab, it won't be like in the normal, for whatever reason, I won' let you put it in like the videos tab. Maybe there's a way to do it and we just never figured it out. Um, but just on the Live tab on Taylor thing, you can listen to the recording. Yeah. And all of the past live shows are still on there as well. 65 formally optimized was taking redda 0.25 milligram per cheat sheet mix Saying low and go slow work great, but I it amped my tinnitus up like crazy had

1:49:18 to stop any theories No, that's kind of weird. I don't know. i've heard of people say Yeah, I don't know really that much about tinnitus. I've heard people say they like BPC and TB 500 help, but I also too, sometimes it doesn't. So that's, unfortunately I just, that one of those ones I wouldn't now. Can I take your listening aid with MOTC or SS 31 or S S O U together? Will they cancel each other out? I mean, they wouldn' really like cancele each othe out.

1:49:49 Like you can take Mozi and SS31 together. I just, you know, I don't think you need to. Yeah. And if you're taking sloop, take the SS 31 along with the sloop instead of the Moxi. Okay. started glow, was taking four weeks, suddenly developing delayed onset inflammatory response to some filler I had three years ago, assuming it's a reaction to the glow thoughts. I don't know anything about filler, like lip filler. Well filler you can get filler in multiple places in the face.

1:50:22 Started glow. Like it is causing inflammation. Is it the peptides or like like they're having a detox response to the filler from the peptides or they like interacting? That's a tough one. I don't fully know because I mean, usually most cases depending on the type of filler it only lasts a year depending you've gotten.

1:51:02 Um, that's a tough one. I'm gonna go with, I don't know. Yeah, i'm trying to come up with a theory in my head on why that could be happening. um I guess I also do. Is it like, are you getting an inflammation response? Like where the filler was? That's what I was wondering. Like if it's in your lips is like in the lips and your cheeks. Are you and injecting the glow or are you putting the globe directly onto your face?

1:51:34 Yeah, and I know like I Know that like, I have heard I don't know if I should say this. What about the Botox that no I I've heard that sometimes GHK could Make old scarring come back Is it because it's like enhancing college and since it is adding the volume, so it was enhancing that college in production. So like expands the scar.

1:52:04 Yeah. Even though it can, but it also bring it in some cases it and bring out old scarring. That could be, could it be it? Yeah, sorry. I wish I had a better answer. Got it, got it. China, not China. I know I was pronouncing it wrong when I said China but China thank you.

1:52:34 Thank you for the support. Taylor's hair is amazing. Oh, thank someone says, have your husband find a spot on your foot and press as hard as you can for as long as he can to stand it every night. We'll help in days. You have my plan of flash days in less than two weeks. So it helped it even though it like, it hurts really bad to press on that spot. Get ready for the pain. Funny enough. So like our dog has this weird. like skin reaction. He's like really itchy right now, which is weird because the other one isn't.

1:53:06 And so we thought it may be something he was eating, but like the one eats the exact same food and he doesn't have any itching whatsoever. So he either just has like an allergy or like a nutritional deficiency that we're trying to fix. But anyway, we were injecting with KPV, BPC and TB 500 and it actually did help calm down. The redness in his skin went down a lot. But Taylor like can't bring herself to inject the dog. So I'm like, dude, you're doing him a disservice. If you don't inject, like inject him.

1:53:36 I know I can do it, but I'll just saying like you are not harming the dogs. Well, I did it this morning and he like pulled against me and like. Do you think he would rather not itch though? I am not going to not inject it. But it's just like I would just. We inject them with testosterone all the time and they're fine with it? But I don' like doing the one doing it Yeah. I mean, I get it because you don't like, you think it's like harming animals, but it not like it injecting with a peptide with an insulin needle. And most of the, if you do it right, he just doesn't feel it.

1:54:08 Like if he grabbed this morning, well, yeah, don' think you grabbed the skin, right? Cause you have to like grab the little bit of, cause they don t have that much fat, like a little fat slide it in. But, uh, it s also hard to see like if the needle sit all the way, because of all of her. Yeah, and yeah. You have feel that. Anyway, so. I heard that taking RETA will raise the fasting glucose level because of the glucagon receptor while through Zapotide won't. Is it true? Can you please talk about how and why?

1:54:39 I mean, maybe transiently, I haven't really looked at that. In theory, yeah, that's like what would play out, but you also have the GIP component of Reta. And so if you were just injecting glucogon, That probably would happen. But if have GLP plus the GLIP plus gluogogone, and I don't see that happening in practice. Yeah. The thing with like rumble is like, if I find out my YouTube channel definitely is nuked forever, maybe I'll go to rumple, but it's also too, I have to weigh like okay. Yep. Maybe people will go into rumbo and listen to it.

1:55:11 But then also it like how do I spend my time? takes a lot of time and work on our end to like upload stuff to another platform and then most of rumble is like a logical political stuff what i which i don't necessarily like disagree with or whatever but the there's not a And so it's kind of like, yeah, I get it, like having a place, but that's why I have a Dropbox folder. It's like if you're on my email list, i have A Drop Box folder of all my old videos. And So if You're On My Email List, You Can Go Into The Footer Of That Email Lists Anytime And Click On The DropBox Link And All Of My Old Videos Are Up There.

1:55:45 I Don't Even Know How Many There Are, But It'S Like, Like Hundreds Of Hours Of Videos That You can Go And Watch On There Anytime That you Want. You Could Download Them, you Can Share Them. You can download them to your computer. You download it to wherever you want. And most of them, I have the audio file too. So if you wanted the file, you have those too, and so that's what I do. Yeah. I'm sure rumble would be great, but it's just a lot of work to like re-upload and then have another place that you upload. Spotify seems to have been good so far because a lotta people have that. Obviously you can listen to audio like on iTunes podcast and stuff.

1:56:19 We'll see what happens. Let's see. Recommendations for hair scalp health other than GHK. Um, desiccated thyroid. Yeah. I would say desicate thyroid, um, am I allowed to? Well, Yeah. Yeah, I would say like Alex, um, Alex Keichel has a hair topical serum that he just posted on his Instagram.

1:56:52 Um, so I know like that definitely has gotten a lot of good results. So I definitely check that out. And then, just for me personally, like desiccated thyroid is going to be really beneficial. Then for my ingestible testosterone has helped grow my hair back. And then I would also say like, as far as like what I've also noticed hair product wise, um, Orbe is a salon professional brand and they actually have

1:57:24 a scalp therapy line that has like a shampoo, a conditioner, and a spray. And, I, would say this, the shampoo and the conditioner and spray has helped with stimulating hair growth for me as well too, on top of everything else. Yeah. So, but I also would definitely check out, um, Alex's product because he's just, he knows, He knows more about that than I do. Yeah, I mean, haven't really spent a ton of time doing a lot of like hair loss type material or research myself.

1:57:58 Well, remember like when, cause Alex used to be my coach and coaching with him, like he told me a formula to try and I And I ended up not trying it, but like, so I know like he's been using that formula for a long time. I've had really great success with it. Also medical grade red light therapy is like one of the best things for... Yeah, it's actually helped our brother-in-law a lot with hair growth. Yeah. Best act before surgery and after surgery for hip replacement.

1:58:38 I would say keep using those until you're completely healed. Don't worry. Like when it comes to surgical procedures, don't worried about doing like eight weeks on, eight week off. Keep using them until your completely heals. Yeah. Can Tessamerelin increase blood sugar levels? Yes, it can. There's documented data to support that, but you can also use metformin, Jardians, dihydroberberine. even something like Reddit TrueTime to mitigate that. And obviously to like, I think it will, if you don't exercise, but like in my experience, even if don' take those other things that you're exercising and

1:59:14 eating healthy, it really won't. It's a lot of times just people aren't doing anything. Current pep stack right now. I think I said it earlier, RETTA, SS31, thymalin, and that's really it. I mean, I was doing the growth hormone and then switching that between MK777 and growth hormones. Um, but that was like what I run all the time. Always doing like some sort of growth thing. Yeah. Uh, um, had played around with like 600 ish milligrams of ATX. Actually took, haven't taken that in the last couple of weeks.

1:59:47 But I really liked that. So yeah, AT X, the MK seven, seven. I'm also using SS 31. And then I've been using the last two weeks, I'd been P 21. Yeah. I have only been like two to three times a week. Like I am not using P21 every day. Ben, with the the SLU dosing, we actually talked about that.

2:00:20 So I don't want to just say it for the people that were on the call earlier. But if you go back to the recording, once this is done, and we talked probably for like 20 minutes about not 20, it's probably like 10 or 15 minutes, about the, the so you do saying and my thoughts on that, I think this is good. Since I had a bad reaction, allergic to MOTC was amazing. Previous cycles tried again, low dose things. So I was, yeah. And also too, you do not need to go like five to 10 milligrams of Motsy per day, or even two to three times a week. I would say, even if you've had bad reactions, start with like 0.5 milligrams once a day.

2:00:51 For most people, the dose is going to be one milligram, maybe two milligrams, but no, a lot of people will do like 10 kilograms and get anaphylactic shock. He's a character. If we bring my dad on, I think I'm going to get kicked off. It's going on the Hunter and my Dad show. Well, he might kick you off and I say, hey, look, you're not worthy of being on this. No, it's just a baby. What would be funny is we did a podcast with your dad and your sisters and you mom and just like had them talk about all this stuff.

2:01:30 We've done videos with my mom. I'm going to do a video. Your mom's done that with your mom tonight. My family's a lot. There's too much talking and over talking each other. If anyone is in the triangle area of North Carolina, Google NC Radiance. She's in a studio and has a red light therapy bed there and it's the best redlight. It's an actual medical grade. red light device, but that's what she's doing these days and she loves it.

2:02:01 And people it's crazy just with like this stuff. Cause she talks to a lot of people that, you know, like, we're out, I wouldn't call it rednecks, But like we are in the country. So there's like a, a of the people she helps that just like are so far removed from this world and just getting like little bit of redlight therapy for them is life changing. And so it's cool to see just like people that, like, people, that I thought too, they were like our neighbors or stuff growing up that would have like

2:02:36 like are so far from the realm of what we talk about, you know, just blue collar type people like do a red light band be like whoa, Like they're blown away by like how much it helps. And so it's like, that's the tip of the iceberg. But anyway, yeah. Plug for that'll be the non-sanction sponsor. Also non sanction sponsor now that I think about it, my body matrix, hydrogen rich water is amazing. I get questions a lot when these are in our videos, like what we're drinking and it. This water, and they actually have a really good pain relief cream.

2:03:07 that I've been using on my foot too. Yeah. I like hydrogen water. Some people say it's scam. And I drink more water than these little couches too, I'll say. So the filler question, the fillers is in the cheeks. The glow was in then. Okay. You injected the glow and sub cue in neck area. Then you're getting the inflammation in your cheeks, Is filler like toxic?

2:03:48 Depending on the type, I mean, putting on the type. Yeah. I mean, I just wonder if it's like, because I get it done. Completely speculating. But I wonder, if like you have a foreign substance in the body, you inject something that increases like blood flow and reduces inflammation and increases stem cell migration. Is it basically like the inflammatory response is like a detox to those molecules attempting to metabolize that out of the body?

2:04:22 Yeah. I mean, I do think that it will. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And I've talked about this for like, do you think like also I resistance train weight lift. Like I, you feel like peptides, like since I added peptide and I think my body metabolizes Botox quicker. So, um, It could be that I'm probably I just don't know enough on the subject. I would probably, if it's giving you an inflammation reaction, I'd probably stop doing it.

2:04:59 my cheeks and I smile on area. Like people might get mad at me for that, but I do that because of the amount of leaning out and everything makes a difference with, with my face. So, um, I have done it a couple of times, But when I use GHK, like I don't, don t get that reaction when i use it. But I also don' t, i don''t inject in my fa ce. I dont know where that theory came up with that I inject GHK in my face.

2:05:31 Um, I've never injected anything into my case. I'm scared of that. He has, um, scared to do that, so I don't know. Well, actually that's something I think cooler than a TRT clinic. And I'll be talking about that more soon. Dosing suggestion for P21, I would start with like 100 micrograms. I was using 250 micro grams and that was like relatively potent for me. Like I noticed it. So it's not a high dose. Um, if you're sensitive to like uterine type stuff, start it with a hundred, probably okay at two 50. That's what Taylor and I did.

2:06:08 And we used it, so I'm pairing it Yeah, you could do it every day. Honestly, I took it like two or three times a week. Yeah. And I noticed like good benefits. Or even if you want to care on the opposite day that you don't take your triseptide, that also would be great too. I hear someone said I experienced an old scar that was no longer visible coming back after using a GHK cream. Now it resembles a new scar again. Is there anything I can do to reduce the redness? So, okay. So I am actually like, sorry that happened, but I'm glad that like you mentioned that because so I was right on that theory.

2:06:41 Um, To reduce the redness, one would stop using it, obviously. And then to help with the retinas, it's again, not in the peptide biohacking world, but Skin Better Science has two really great brightening serums. Um, they have the regular brightening serum and have an intense one. Personally, I just started using the intense. And it, have no makeup on right now on my face.

2:07:13 I've noticed a huge difference in even at the skin tone, but it will help with that redness. So I definitely would suggest. I would suggest you could be using that. Like I'm going to use peptides for things, but there's things that like cosmetically certain topical creams that are medical graded, I am going recommend women or anybody using Matt. So I'd look at that and then Elastin has another really great skin brightening serum that would help with that too.

2:07:44 And retinol, if you're not using retinal, that was also going Can I make a topical cream serum out of the glow? Yes, you can. There are companies that already have those created. It's going to be better to use GHK powder than the lyophilized peptides, but you definitely can try it and use it.

2:08:14 If you were going to put it into a cream, I would suggest doing it with, um, hyaluronic acid, to be honest. Like I haven't, it's, you're going be better using it in the hyluron acid and more in a serum base versus like a heavier cream base texture. But that makes sense. I've put GH K like, mixed backwater, pulled it out and then put it into like a moisturizing cream, just like the base moisturizing, cream like off Amazon.

2:08:44 And that seemed to work. I don't know how stable it was. Because the cream isn't going to be as stable. You want the more the hyaluronic acid being more of a liquid is going keep it more stable, but if you have like, a lyophilized peptide blend, not the raw powder, I would definitely suggest reconstituting it with like a little bit of backwater, because if you try to, and I've done this, I tried to reconstitute a lyophilized peptide with just straight hyaluronic acid and it doesn't dissolve all the way.

2:09:16 So I would just say like, kind of going back like when I made the SNAP8 serum, definitely still use a bit back water and then pull that out and add it into your hyalaronic Yeah. How long does filler last? So it just depends. There's different types. I know the one that I had done will last, I say, for a year, but I think they last even longer than a Um, I know women that have gotten lip filler done

2:09:55 and it's lasted for them for like many years. Um. But just the one that I, get done last for a year. I've had mine for over a and I still think that it. It's pretty good. This might get me in trouble. Some of these women. That are really young that are doing filler or taking it way too far. Yeah. There's anything wrong with like filler. No, I mean, it's definitely, but like some of it is, some it getting like, you cannot tell how old someone and are anymore because they're so young and

2:10:28 then they are doing the filler, which kind of makes them look older. Yeah. Well, think it also like I think a lot of that honestly is like the style. It's a style that we're doing right now. The injectors. And there's also the injector cause you do have to be careful with that. I would say taking a conservative injecter. It's going to be better because there's times like I'll ask her things and my injector will be like, yeah, no, we're not doing that. Yeah. Um, and they also, you know, the more filler, The more Botox you buy, then more money they're making off of that too.

2:11:00 But it's just, it is just kind of a trending look right now with the younger generation. What would help my 20 year old daughter's hormonal acne on her face? I would say let's first find the root of the problem. Is it stimulating from any kind of synthetic hormones that she's taking? Let's just say there's no synthetic hormone going on. I think it would still be beneficial just to see where she is at blood work with her hormones, but if we're just talking about skin products.

2:11:37 Image skincare is a aesthetics-grade skincare line. A lot of med spas use that in their clinics, but they have a really great acne control line, and their psilocybin acne wash is really good. They have an acne spot treatment. Retinol is going to help. So I would say like as long as like, you know, I think it's beneficial to get hormone, get blood work done. And let's just say, like they're not on any synthetic hormones.

2:12:08 I also using skincare products like that are going be fast. Image skincare, their acne line. Yeah. It's one of those things is like if it's hormonal, maybe it could be like a little bit of PCOS happening, which could help with like, like insulin sensitivity could with that. So like diet, KPV, gut health, are they eating a lot of dairy greasy, you know, high fat greasy processed foods. Like that's, that a hard age.

2:12:39 I had acne more severe than like 95% of people when I was that age, And it was probably hormonal, probably diet. But I also was wearing a football helmet and sweating all the time. And so it's not fun. It's one of those, I don't miss those days of acne as a teenager. So should I stop taking all mitochondrial peptides or all peptide when taking FOXO for DRI?

2:13:09 I've kind of heard that swirling around out there. Honestly, Yeah. That's, that's going to be at your discretion. I will say like FOXO4 is not one of those peptides you'll necessarily feel. It's a senolytic peptide, which means it's like clearing senescent cells. So you probably won't feel anything. And I've never really heard anyone say that they felt anything on it, but you know, it could be doing stuff underlying just for longevity that would be good. But I, to that specific question, I don't know. Do you think I'll be okay to use SLU, even though I use, uh, salatocitalopram, Which I think is an SSRI.

2:13:43 Probably, but again, when it comes to the psychotropic drugs, all bets are off. So I don't see like any cross interaction other than like maybe it makes the drug a little stronger. Cause if you're like improving energy efficiency, you are also improving efficiency to brain. And I dunno like how that would interact, I dont know specifically like if it would do anything there. Does there need to be a receptor break between cycles of MOTC and SS31, or can you go directly from one cycle to the other?

2:14:15 No, you can go to directly, because there are two distinctly different things. So you're going to alternate. Honestly, if you just alternated between those every eight weeks throughout the year, I think that's perfectly fine to do. All righty. I Think that is it. Pretty much all the questions answered. Let me just make sure I didn't miss anything. Thank you guys. Thank You guys so much. Someone said, how do you spell the hair brand? Orbe?

2:14:45 Oh, Or-be. Was that O-R-B-E? Yes, O R B E. Okay. Yeah, everyone's saying the purple is the like the Purple violet color one. Yeah Yeah I think the talk the Talk Radio style show would be a hit I Think there's a way we can do it with this to like where we could put people in a waiting room And then like Taylor could like man it, you know and like bring people and yes We'd probably have multiple people on the waiting-room But I would love to do that just like have like one person on you for like five minutes or so and just talk about like what they're doing I?

2:15:18 Think people learn too much rather that way and I'd love To do All right. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, we will. We will not wait three months to do another. It's a little bit easier because we're not traveling. We're not traveling a ton right now. Yeah. Thank you, guys. I know I close out and probably too overemphasizing, but thank you guys so much. The fact that we could do what we do is the biggest blessing and privilege in our lives and the support from guys and girls like you.

2:15:50 It really is just the greatest blessing. So thank guys, so we love each and every one of you any time you support us, whatever it is. even sending like a positive message to us, it really makes our day and makes us so excited to do this. So without you guys, we don't exist. And that will continue for as long as we get to this to spread the word, go out and help other people with this information, make a difference and you know, your family. your community. Um, and yeah, I'll keep you posted again, just to close out.

2:16:22 Just make sure you're on the email list because that's where you will get to stay in touch with us. It does seem like Taylor's Instagram is getting flagged. My Instagram's getting flags. Obviously my YouTube channel was deleted. And so that just the best place to say, but we love you guys. Yeah. Thank you so much. Again, we'll let you know on email when we do the next one, maybe, well, depends what time my brother's game is next weekend, because I do want to make sure I get to see that game and it might be a 12 o'clock kickoff to which I'd not be able to do this. But if it's not, we'll make to it.

2:16:53 And I don't know, We could do Sunday mornings too. I like Saturday mornings, but Sunday morning. So we can do that. Anyway, love you guys. Thank you. See you next one. Bye. Peace.